Dreaded stuck fermentation

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  1. gabedivision

    gabedivision Initiate (0) May 7, 2010 New York

    12 lbs marris otter
    12 oz crystal 120
    9 oz honey malt
    1oz carafa III
    10 oz corn sugar

    OG 1071

    used 1 1/2 packets of unhydrated safale 05

    brewed this on february 24. had it fermenting in basement at about 61 degrees, started off well then BOOM! got very cold temp got down to 57 and i got stuck at 1030. moved it up stairs to around 67 degreees to try to rouse the yeast. left it about a week and a half and still 1030. My issues and concerns are not sure if i should swirl the yeast or to pitch more. my concern is it has been sitting on yeast for about a month already. if i re-pitch do, should i transfer to a secondary? AND, do i make a starter with dme or the beer itself? i would rather keg and serve before trying to swirl yeast, oxidized beer is worse than sweet beer imo. any input would be appreciated
     
  2. ericj551

    ericj551 Pooh-Bah (1,638) Apr 29, 2004 Canada (AB)
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    You can easily swirl without oxidizing. Just rotate on it's vertical axis, that should move the carboy but the beer will remain fairly still and rouse the yeast (which is sitting on the carboy). Plus, assuming you have airlock and the primary has been otherwise sealed, there should be almost no O2 left. If that doesn't work, I would make a starter (with DME) and pitch it at high krausen. You really want the yeast to be active when you throw them into a tough environment.
     
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  3. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    Why would you use 1.5 packs of US-05 instead of 2?

    What ericj551 said. Good luck.
     
  4. gabedivision

    gabedivision Initiate (0) May 7, 2010 New York

    the air lock was removed only to take gravitys. guess ill give it a shot. and i used 1.5 as acording to a yeast calculator.
     
  5. jae

    jae Initiate (0) Feb 21, 2010 Washington

    Yup. It happens rarely. Who knows why? I always blame the yeast.
     
  6. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    Round up...especially with dry yeast :slight_smile:
     
  7. koopa

    koopa Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2008 New Jersey

    Provided you fermented at an appropriate temperature for an appropriate amount of time, rehydrated the dry yeast, oxygenated your wort, and added yeast nutrient, I see no reason why 1.5 packets wouldn't get the job done.....other than your ridiculously cold initial fermentation temperature, but moving the wort to a 67F room should have kicked it off again. Did you successfully accomplish the 5 prerequisites I mentioned?
     
  8. WelshBrewer

    WelshBrewer Initiate (0) Mar 17, 2013 Oregon

    I always rehydrate, regardless if others say you don't have too, it yealds way more cells.
     
  9. gabedivision

    gabedivision Initiate (0) May 7, 2010 New York

    i aerated, added nutrient, had to be the cold. ive missed fg's before but never 1030, thats way off. when i brought it upstairs to warmer temps i seen action in airlock but since gravity was the same im guessing it was just o2 from moving it around. and agreed ive used 1 packet of yeast with similar grain bill and hit my gravity.
     
  10. basscram

    basscram Initiate (0) Mar 29, 2006 Maine

    What FG are you shooting for?
     
  11. koopa

    koopa Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2008 New Jersey

    I've read that you can lose up to 50% viability by failing to rehydrate the dry yeast first. If so, you just attempted to ferment 5 gallons of 1.071 OG beer with 3/4 of a pack worth of cells. Also, how fresh was the dry yeast? How old was the pack / what was the expiration date?
     
  12. gabedivision

    gabedivision Initiate (0) May 7, 2010 New York

    1012
     
  13. basscram

    basscram Initiate (0) Mar 29, 2006 Maine

    go ahead and put it in secondary or package it. If its done fermenting, its done. The safale 05 will not do too much work from my experience.
     
  14. koopa

    koopa Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2008 New Jersey

    I think this one is done fermenting mainly because of an initial underpitch. The drop in temps definitely didn't help of course. That's also assuming the original mash temp / duration was satisfactory. I'd guess that if you racked to secondary, pitched a full packet of rehydrated us05 into the 1.030 wort, and maintained a fermentation temperature in the upper 60's for 10-14 days, the gravity would drop by as much as 15+ points.
     
  15. premierpro

    premierpro Savant (1,060) Mar 21, 2009 Michigan

    I would look for a yeast that has a high alchol tolarance and re-pitch.
     
  16. Melvin

    Melvin Initiate (0) Mar 27, 2014 Washington

    Drop safale s-33 in there. It should finish it off. It has a high alcohol tolerance and is fairly clean fermenting.
     
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