Dry Hopping In Primary: Timing

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  1. thosehopsthough

    thosehopsthough Initiate (0) Nov 9, 2016 Connecticut

    I've been reading the threads on here about dry hopping in primary and the benefits of bio-transformation with certain hop varieties/yeast strains and I'm very interested in giving it a go.

    From what I've read, most people recommend adding this dry hop addition on day 3 or 4 of primary fermentation. The problem is that when you account for yeast strain, fermentation temp, and other variables, "day 3" could be very different points in the fermentation process.

    Other people suggest adding it as fermentation slows down, but does that mean right after the peak of fermentation, just as the krausen starts to fall? Does it mean to add the hops after most of the krausen has fallen, so there's only a couple of gravity points to go and fermentation has more or less ceased?

    I've also seen some posters suggest adding it with a few gravity points to go. Again, there "a few" points seems like a pretty wide range; some people are adding their primary dry hop addition when it seems like their beer would only be half attenuated, whereas other people are saying add it when visible fermentation has ceased.

    At the end of the day, I'm sure the beer will turn out awesome regardless of the exact timing of this addition. But with limited time for brewing these days, it'd be extremely helpful to at least have a good starting point for trying this technique, either a clear visual cue (e.g. just as krausen starts to drop) or a specific measurement (e.g. added with X gravity points left or added after X% attenuation . Thanks for the great information!
     
  2. Brewday

    Brewday Zealot (721) Dec 25, 2015 New York

    From what i heard Brewery's add hops near the end of fermentation to save time on dry hopping. You have to judge when FG is done and how long you want to dry hop.
     
  3. A2HB

    A2HB Initiate (0) Oct 30, 2013 Michigan

    I've heard leaving the hops in the beer for too long can impart a "grassy" flavor (not sure what that tastes like), so you'd want to account for that I guess. I usually dry hop for a week and then it's off to be packaged.
     
  4. Ten_SeventySix_Brewhouse

    Ten_SeventySix_Brewhouse Zealot (744) Jul 20, 2016 Indiana

    For the Averagely Perfect NE IPA recipe derived here, everyone collectively arrived at adding the first round of dry hops with 70% of fermentation complete. I don't take gravity readings during fermentation, so I figure just after high krausen would be fine. Keep in mind that that recipe also called for another round of hops after fermentation was 100% compete, for what that's worth.

    If you're just looking for a general starting point or ballpark figure, though, I think 3 or 4 days is good enough.
     
  5. telejunkie

    telejunkie Savant (1,107) Sep 14, 2007 Vermont

    Basically there is no clear consensus for a correct way to do it. You'll need to gauge timing based on your experience and on visual cues. Did fermentation start strong or was there a long lag time? Would you prefer to add dry hops closer to mid-fermentation or later fermentation?
    I recently pitched my dry hops roughly 56 hours after yeast pitching and the yeast was ~75% complete. That beer started at 1.055, finished at 1.013 and at 56 hours, the SG was 1.024. With that beer, a krausen had developed within 12 hours of yeast pitching and the roiling fermentation had already slowed significantly by 56 hours post-pitch. Often times though, I'd wait until closer to completion of fermentation, more like 72hrs post-pitching. But that would be longer if there was a long lag time and fermentation seemed to proceed slowly.
     
  6. al_shyeasty

    al_shyeasty Initiate (0) Nov 17, 2016 Massachusetts

    Guys, i messed up. First time attempting dry-hopping and I added 2 oz of Galaxy in the primary immediately after pitching after I finished the cool down last night. What can I expect.. I was thinking of pulling the muslin bag when I get home today...
     
  7. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
    Pooh-Bah

    I want to see someone compare a beer that they dry hop during fermentation vs a beer that they dry hop after fermentation. Let the beer age for 3 or 4 weeks, like it should, and let me know if there's a difference in taste.
     
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  8. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Pooh-Bah (2,111) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont
    Pooh-Bah

    I have done this. My results were much lower aroma with the DH during ferment vs after ferment. The beer was good, but disappointing seeing I was looking for a big nose hit when I cracked the bottle.

    Biggest nose has been when I DH after secondarying and adding a half oz of hop dust to the bottleing bucket. I know others would not like hop residue in their bottles, but that does not bother me!
     
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  9. VTBrewHound

    VTBrewHound Pundit (831) Jan 5, 2013 Vermont

    There are breweries adding hops to the fermentation chamber before adding the wort. You'll be fine.
     
  10. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah

    I'm not surprised by this. But the best reason for fermentation hopping IMO is to get some different aromas/flavors (via biotransformation) than you get with traditional dry hopping. You can do both in the same batch to get the advantages of both methods.
     
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  11. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Pooh-Bah (2,111) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont
    Pooh-Bah

    Hmmmm, I may try that next week. The one problem I have had is over bittering with lots of whirlpool and DH hopping. Perhaps cutting back on the bittering charge is in order.
    thanks for the tip
     
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