Dry hopping - Leave hops in or remove?

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  1. Curmudgeon

    Curmudgeon Savant (1,110) May 29, 2014 Massachusetts
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    Happy almost Friday!

    I'll be dry hopping for the first time with my next batch (using pellets). I believe The Mad Fermentationist leaves his final dry hops in his serving keg (in nylon knee highs). Then there's this other guy (Bertus Brewery) who racks to his serving keg leaving the dry hops behind. Both do their dry hopping in kegs which is what I plan on doing as well. Is one method better than the other? I'm guessing leaving them in is easier (one less step by not having to rack to another keg) but would racking to a keg leaving the hops behind create a cleaner looking beer? Any flavor gains by leaving them in? Any off flavor development possible by leaving them in?

    I guess if you use fresh ingredients, brew well, stay clean/sanitized and keep oxygen out, both methods are probably fine just wondering what your guys' experiences have been. Thanks for any insight!
     
  2. StupidlyBrave

    StupidlyBrave Zealot (507) Jan 2, 2009 Pennsylvania

    There are many who believe dry hopping for more than a week can contribute "grassy" flavors. So far, this has not been my experience. I also dry hop in the keg - and I suspend the hop bag about half-way up. So if a keg lasts me a month, as many IPAs do - the hops are in contact with beer for two weeks.

    I haven't experienced off flavors, but my experience is limited.
     
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  3. OldBrewer

    OldBrewer Maven (1,385) Jan 13, 2016 Canada (ON)

    I also suspend my hops in the keg, but in a stainless steel mesh container. I attached a small stainless steel clamp to the inside of the lid and dental floss to that. The other end holds the container. Even with this, I got a lot of fine hop material in the bottom of the keg which I had to pour off. I plan on using whole leaf hops in the container the next time around - it will be a lot less messy.

    Depending on how long it takes to finish off your keg, you can probably leave it in the keg for the whole time. If your keg will last for some time, you can always suspend the hops higher in the keg, so that the level of beer will be below the hops before the hops have been in contact with them for too long.

    I also don't find that I get grassy flavors from the hops after dry hopping in the keg for several weeks (especially when your keg is at lagering temperature).
     
  4. Markstr

    Markstr Initiate (0) Nov 30, 2015 New York

    If you're using pellets, I suggest dry hopping in the primary. After 3 days, you won't be leaving much hop flavor behind.
    I've found you really can just throw them in there as long as you put a muslin bag over your siphon when you transfer to keg or bottle.
    Or if you want to avoid the mess, just put them in the sanitized muslin bag in the first place and throw that in. If it's one of those nylon bags, you might benefit from putting some marbles in there to keep it submerged.
     
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  5. fuzzbalz

    fuzzbalz Pundit (953) Apr 13, 2002 Georgia

    I use pellet hops and leave them in the serving keg till it kicks. I don't put them in anything, but I do use a ss mesh screen over the dip tube. Never had any grassy off flavors, and sometimes it does take the beer an extra week to completely clear. I think there's not much benefit to transferring to a second keg unless you want a clearer beer quicker, or maybe just to throw more hops in, but be careful because it is possible to add to many dry hops.....know your equipment limits.
     
  6. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    yes...which ever you like most :slight_smile:
     
  7. Curmudgeon

    Curmudgeon Savant (1,110) May 29, 2014 Massachusetts
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    Thanks for all the pointers! Today is brew day. I'll report back later!
     
  8. mikehartigan

    mikehartigan Maven (1,421) Apr 9, 2007 Illinois

    I use a large grain bag for pellets -- plenty of room for them to swim, and not enough gunk escapes to worry about. I've found that if I leave them in for more than three or four weeks, it starts to develop very objectionable grassy flavors. With four kegs in the kegerator, and as many as four more 'conditioning' while they wait for a keg to kick, more than three or four weeks is not at all unusual for me. Obviously, ymmv. Generally speaking, though, I dry hop only after the keg hits the chiller. I don't lose nearly as much flavor to age that way. At around ten days, I push the beer to another keg, leaving the hop bag behind.

    As far as dry hopping in the keg versus primary, one of the understated bonuses of dry hopping in the keg is the pint you draw about 20 minutes after adding the hop pellets. The hit of hops is huuuuuge! I think this is caused by hop 'dust' settling around the dip tube, but that's just a guess. If that's the case, whole hops may not have the same kick.
     
  9. jeffjeff1

    jeffjeff1 Initiate (0) Jun 6, 2009 California

    I leave them in when I dry hop. I use a filter when I bottle so no solids go into the bottle.
     
  10. Hogue2112

    Hogue2112 Initiate (0) Apr 7, 2016 Ohio

    I bought some small nylon mesh bags a while back off of AIHB on a whim. I was going to use them for bittering additions. I then decided to dryhop with them. I dry hop in the keg, and I tie the mesh bag full of hops (pellet) up with fishing line. I then tie it off to the outside of my keg, suspending the hops halfway ish down, that way I can avoid these impending doom comments about grassy beers. I've never had a beer turn out grassy, they must get lucky and get all of the dank hops. :slight_smile:
     
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  11. Curmudgeon

    Curmudgeon Savant (1,110) May 29, 2014 Massachusetts
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    Thanks Hogue. That's a good idea! The beer's been actively fermenting for about 6 days so I think I'm about to toss in my first round of dry hops into my primary while there's a bit of fermentation activity left to hopefully drive off any oxygen generated. Then when I hit FG, I'll rack to a corny for the 2nd round of dry hopping for 2-3 days. Then cold crash (1-2days?) and finally rack to the serving keg. Lot of steps but hopefully will result in a clean, fresh and hoppy beer!
     
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  12. invertalon

    invertalon Pooh-Bah (2,249) Jan 27, 2009 Ohio
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    I heavily dry hop in primary, no bag. Cold crash for 2-3 days and then keg, no additional hops. My beers are not short on aroma at all (pungent, actually) even after two months in the keg. I have found no need to add additional hops in the keg yet.
     
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  13. Curmudgeon

    Curmudgeon Savant (1,110) May 29, 2014 Massachusetts
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    invertalon, I should thank you; I used a bunch of info from one of your recent IPA posts to help me wrestle with water profile. Also, interesting to see your take on dry hopping. I'm reading various methods for dry hopping from multiple brewers out there. Good to hear your method seems to work. I'll probably go ahead and do two stages of dry hopping. I'm just curious about that method.

    Yup, I need a bigger brew kettle (or maybe split my 5gal batches into two 2.5 gal batches). I'm getting the sense that with every brew, I have "procedure decisions" to make that could slightly (greatly?) affect the beer. In this case, I might've done a single dry hop vs. multiple dry hop and see how they differed in the end.
     
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