Dry Hopping vs Adding at Flameout- aroma.

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  1. geneseohawk

    geneseohawk Initiate (0) Nov 4, 2008 Illinois

    I have done both with pale ales and IPA's and really can't tell a difference on aroma with either. Which do you believe is the better method for adding a more intense aroma on the nose?
     
  2. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    Do both.
     
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  3. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    Steeped hops are better at providing flavor than aroma. They do provide some aroma.

    Dry hops are better at providing aroma.
     
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  4. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I personally do both.

    There is a lot of documentation that dry hopping will provide 'more' aroma since there is no heat to volatize the essential oils of the hops.

    Cheers!
     
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  5. GUNSLINGER

    GUNSLINGER Initiate (0) Nov 18, 2013 Colorado

    They both work well for adding aroma, flameout additions add some good flavor too though. Whereas DH'ing adds mostly aroma and a subtle amount of flavor.

    I do flameout, whirlpool, hop rocket and then dry hop when doing hoppy beers and I love the intense flavor and armomas im getting. I also do first wort hopping and believe it imparts a more palatable/softer bitterness.
     
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  6. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    Most volatile aroma oils are lost with flameout hop additions.
    Try instead: chill to ~160°F ... add hops ... whirlpool a time or three while resting 20-30 minutes ... then chill to yeast pitching temperature.

    To get more aroma from dry-hopping ... use mo'hops.
    Some claim leaf produces better aroma.
    Sometimes seems that way to me.
     
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  7. Jesse14

    Jesse14 Initiate (0) Jul 21, 2011 Massachusetts

    What told by a local by a local pro to add the dry hops in earlier during primary. The rule of thumb is with 1-2 gravity points to go. His advice is to go earlier and let the biotransformations do their magic. Also said to go with pellets only feeling that leaf tends to be a lesser quality and more oxidized. I followed that advice on my latest IPA and have the best aroma I've ever had. My first dry hop went in when I was at 1.020 and finished up at 1.011. May be coincidence but I doubt it.
     
  8. GUNSLINGER

    GUNSLINGER Initiate (0) Nov 18, 2013 Colorado

    Adding dry hops just before primary fermentation has ceased is something I do most of the time as well.

    I also continue to dry hop after primary fermentation has ceased.
     
  9. telejunkie

    telejunkie Savant (1,107) Sep 14, 2007 Vermont

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  11. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    There was a Ray Daniels presentation at NHC 2009 discussing the Rock Bottom experiment:

    Rock Bottom conducted a late hopping experiment (in 2008 or 2009?) solely using Amarillo hops:

    Four approaches to finishing hops

    – 1 lb/bbl total per trial

    • Short – 50 mins stand in hot wort

    • Long – 80 mins stand in hot wort

    • Dry – all dry hopped

    • Half – half dry, half long stand”


    The result of the experiment was that the combination of dry hopping and end of boil resulted in:

    · Half equals or exceeds “dry” on all measures!

    · For a given amount of finishing hops:

    – Best results if you split them btw steep and dry”

    So, it appears that a combination of end of boil and dry hopping (using the same hop variety) yields a ‘better’ hop flavor/aroma

    Cheers!
     
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  12. telejunkie

    telejunkie Savant (1,107) Sep 14, 2007 Vermont

    right...sorry about that. Thanks Jack for posting a synopsis of the results!
     
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