Dry hopping

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by Davidbraud, Jul 19, 2017.

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  1. Davidbraud

    Davidbraud Initiate (0) Dec 29, 2015 Tennessee

    should my beer container be completely sealed or should there be an airlock installed when dry hopping?
     
  2. guzzleacoldone

    guzzleacoldone Pooh-Bah (1,898) Feb 3, 2007 Ohio
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    I've always left the airlock in as there is usually some fermentation still taking place.
     
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  3. NeroFiddled

    NeroFiddled Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,276) Jul 8, 2002 Pennsylvania
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    I'm pretty sure it's going to have to be open when you put them in! :wink:

    Airlock - the hops will act as nucleation points for the CO2 and some of it'll come out of solution. After that you can seal it up again if you want but I've always left the airlock on until I racked.
     
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  4. Wiffler27

    Wiffler27 Pooh-Bah (2,092) Aug 16, 2009 South Carolina
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    take the bung and airlock out

    add dry hops

    put the bung and airlock back in

    don't completely seal your fermenter, it needs someway to breathe. the airlock does its job
     
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  5. Ten_SeventySix_Brewhouse

    Ten_SeventySix_Brewhouse Zealot (744) Jul 20, 2016 Indiana

    If you're using a glass carboy do not seal it completely, ever. They aren't meant to hold pressure. If too much co2 builds up in the headspace from active fermentation, just co2 coming out of solution, or warming up the fermenter, that gas is going to want to escape. You'd better hope the seal gives, otherwise the carboy can shatter.

    Even with plastic, the pressure could blow the lid off, which would defeat the purpose of sealing it in the first place. Just use an airlock.
     
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  6. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

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  7. MostlyNorwegian

    MostlyNorwegian Pooh-Bah (2,236) Feb 5, 2013 Illinois
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    No.
    This but smaller and not quite as messy.

    They are quite the sight if you ever get to see one in person. If you don't seal up your fermenter in time. There really isn't a single thing you can do but get wet and wait it out.
     
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  8. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    That sounds like Randy Mosher talking and laughing.
     
  9. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    So . . . I'm going to hijack this thread to ask about dry hopping NEIPAs. Has anyone out there every skipped dry hopping one of these beers? I have a theory that maybe one doesn't need to dry hop these beers to get big aroma because of the way polyphenols, both from hops and grains, keep the beer turbid. I figure that if one uses enough hops on the hot side, cold side hops won't be necessary. I'm going to give it a go with my next NEIPA some time this month, regardless, but I'd certainly like to hear any anecdotal evidence that you all might have.
     
  10. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    Yes, I do this when I overshoot my volume on a 5 gal batch (about 1/2 the time)...the extra beer goes into bottles and while aromatic is noticeably different than the dry hopped batch
     
  11. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    What's your average hop addition while cooling or in the whirlpool?
     
  12. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    3 oz...but another 1.5 oz. average at 5-10 min
    caveat: I only dry hop once in the keg (4 oz for 5 gal batch)
     
  13. hezagenius

    hezagenius Initiate (0) Jan 3, 2011 Iowa

    @Davidbraud
    If you are dry hopping in a vessel that is not capable of holding pressure, I'd probably avoid sealing it up. I guess you could try a one-way stopper that will let gas out but not back in. I don't know how glass reacts to negative pressure but you will likely get deformation of a plastic fermenter.

    If you are dry hopping in a keg or pressure rated fermenter, then you can do either.

    I usually do a spunding valve on a keg when dry hopping NEIPAs. That way, I can maintain a certain head pressure during the dry hop and then hook up gas and crash in the same vessel.

    @EvenMoreJesus
    I'd be curious to see how a non-dry hopped NEIPA works out. I've noticed that when I rack my NEIPAs from my fermenter to a dry hop keg, the aroma is massive and sometimes it will get muted even after a big dry hop. Not quite sure what's going on there. My solution is to get a pony keg to do all the fermenting and dry hopping in and then do a single transfer to the serving keg and be done with it. I haven't got there yet. Legitimately acquired pony kegs aren't so easy to find.
     
  14. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    I'd think that oxygen exposure is a BIG reason. That's part of my theory. People who do closed transfers seem to be getting more hop aroma and flavor out of less hops.
     
  15. hezagenius

    hezagenius Initiate (0) Jan 3, 2011 Iowa

    @EvenMoreJesus
    Agreed, although I do a closed pressure transfer from fermenter to a liquid purged keg. I don't think I could introduce any less oxygen unless I did all the fermentation and dry hopping in 1 vessel. I liquid purge my transfer line as well.
     
  16. lexbrewer5

    lexbrewer5 Initiate (179) Feb 8, 2014 Massachusetts

    I usually throw in 5 oz for dry hopping after 4-5 days of fermentation. Then throw in 1 oz for the keg. I also use 5 oz for the hopstand/whirlpool at about 175 degrees for up to 45 min, stirring about 5-6 times during that period. Anyone else have other strategies?
     
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