Economy, Beer Prices and Consumption

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Iluvink, Apr 10, 2018.

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  1. Iluvink

    Iluvink Crusader (489) Aug 21, 2008 Texas

    I have this uneasy feeling on the back of my neck, that it may be possible, that we are going to see beer prices rise, and our economy tank. If my pessimism turns out to be true, at what point will you change your consumption habits? If my disposable income really begins to get hit, then I could see my habits changing.
     
  2. bbtkd

    bbtkd Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,790) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    Economies are cyclical so there will always be recessions and recoveries, and prices only trend upwards. At this point in our lives - empty nest and about 6.83 years from planned retirement - if either of us loses their job due to a recession, then we could get by on one income for a year or two. I'd feel guilty about continuing to buy more craft, but luckily I have enough cellar to get me through a couple of years at the low rate I drink. Drinking is low priority compared to bills, so eventually I would have to give it up if financial issues persisted.
     
  3. Lahey

    Lahey Initiate (0) Nov 12, 2016 Michigan

    The big change for me would be sticking to cheaper beers. No more 15-25 dollar 4 packs (unless it's high abv, 16 oz and at the low end of that price spectrum) 15 packs of all day and sixers of victory at sea would probably be my daily drinkers.
     
  4. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Pooh-Bah (2,559) Mar 28, 2009 California
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    I am already seeing beer prices rise to the point that I no longer seek out “special” releases. Too many good beers out there for $20 16 oz four packs. If the prices do rise considerably I am more than happy to fill my fridge with Sierra Nevada and Firestone. Yes, I can find fresh Firestone in my area.
    Also, I’m finding more of my budget going to Homebrew. $60 - $80 for 5 gallons of a juicy ipa/dipa that I get to decide on what hops I want? It’s a no brainer.
     
  5. donspublic

    donspublic Grand Pooh-Bah (3,552) Aug 4, 2014 Texas
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    Yeah I treat beer like I do wine, try to find the best I can for the price point I want to pay. I am not a fan of paying > $10 a sixer on a regular basis. I am really jonesing on Live Oak and Celis 6 packs at $7.99. I do throw down the $$ on the ba stuff, but normally my everyday drinking I am trying to stay low ABV and low $$. I splurge on the weekends when I get out
     
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  6. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    As someone who followed the Atlantic City debacle closely I have had this nagging feeling about the economy OP describes since Jan. of last year. And beer prices are steadily rising too.

    I may have to get back to homebrewing. I haven't done much since failing in attempt to open a brewery with two other homebrewers a few years back. It's hard getting motivated for five or ten gallon batches after brewing much larger batches. Last time I was strapped for cash some years back I made a vow to drink nothing but homebrew for the duration, and it really saved money. I could do it again for sure.
     
  7. LeRose

    LeRose Grand Pooh-Bah (4,423) Nov 24, 2011 Massachusetts
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    Simple for me, really. Bring five years away from retirement working in a business that is struggling with new management bent on turning us into a hipster company, my beer dollars spent would drop to zero. I might home brew more, anticipating time on my hands, but even that has a cost.
     
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  8. NYR-Zuuuuc

    NYR-Zuuuuc Maven (1,351) Jan 1, 2013 Connecticut

    I have always thought that the craft beer "boom" is closely tied to the current bull market, people have lots of expendable cash. I think that when we do hit the next recession (and we will) craft beer is going to take a hit, a big hit. I think the smaller mediocre breweries will go under and the larger and better breweries will be forced to cut margins to compete to sell beer. We could see prices come down from the ones who survive, just to compete. I would also think breweries would pull back distribution. One thing I do know is,if (when) the downturn happens you may be able to buy large scale brewing equipment really cheap from all the places that close.....

    Let's hope that day is along way from happening.....
     
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  9. Harrison8

    Harrison8 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,285) Dec 6, 2015 Missouri
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    Interesting take on home brewing. I'll have to reevaluate taking that hobby up. I didn't want to spend the money on equipment and ingredients when I could buy good beer otherwise, but sounds like I need to look more into it from a closer perspective.


    When the economy tanks, I could see my beer budget dropping considerably. I pretty much spend my "fun" budget on racing and beer, with an emphasis on the latter. I could switch to $10 mix six packs and continue to try beer that way. Something I do from time to time now anyway. More days of stocking up on limited bombers and 12oz bottles would be over.
     
  10. MostlyNorwegian

    MostlyNorwegian Pooh-Bah (2,236) Feb 5, 2013 Illinois
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    Given the hotheaded approach of our compromised president. It could get very interesting for breweries in a number of ways. Grain prices are likely to reflect that, and the price of new shiny steel (that is coming from China) is definitely going to reflect that.
     
  11. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    How do you see these two things as being interrelated? Beer prices have been rising consistently, lately, and the economy is doing just fine (for now).

    As others have said, homebrewing is a pretty decent option. You can get started for under $100 for equipment (if you source it wisely, like on craigslist, and are decently handy) and ingredients are not that expensive. As it stands, however, homebrewing isn't that much cheaper than buying beer commercially, depending on the style, of course, when to take time into consideration.
     
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  12. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Answer: homebrewing.

    Make the styles/types of beers you want and make them exactly the way you want.

    Cheers!
     
  13. StoutSnob40

    StoutSnob40 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,611) Jan 4, 2013 California
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    The last thing I want to think about when I am drinking is politics and the economy. Working in the medical industry, I am in constant fear of how drastic adjustments in healthcare and insurance reimbursements will impact my industry, but for now, it's party time. I'll adjust when needed..
     
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  14. Squire

    Squire Grand Pooh-Bah (4,385) Jul 16, 2015 Mississippi
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    I'll get by even if I hafta brew my own.
     
  15. Leebo

    Leebo Initiate (0) Feb 7, 2013 Massachusetts

    I like quality 12 packs in the $15 range and buy far less of the $ 14 -16.00 four packs. Jacks Abby 6 x16 oz for about $ 10.00? Yes please.
     
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  16. IPAExpert69

    IPAExpert69 Savant (1,065) Aug 2, 2017 Pennsylvania

    The old joke that beer is recession proof is honestly pretty factual. Maybe I won't make trips to seek out beer, but I'll be able to splurge on a few 6's a week as long as I'm employed if another recession hits like it did in '08.
     
  17. dcotom

    dcotom Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,637) Aug 4, 2014 Iowa
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    As long as I have a roof over my head and food on the table, I'm good. No beer? No problem.
     
  18. Prep8611

    Prep8611 Savant (1,208) Aug 22, 2014 New Jersey

    Homebrewing after initial investment is pretty cheap. I can make a pale ale with pale malt and cascade for about 16 dollars for two cases worth. No brainer for me. I'm already at 90 percent homebrew. Only thing I buy now is BOurbon county and a few growlers a year from my local breweries. Occasionally a Founders 6 pack.
     
  19. storm72

    storm72 Aspirant (285) Jul 4, 2010 Illinois

    Like other posters, homebrewing increasingly wins my disposable income over commercial beer. This has nothing to do with my economic circumstances but is about personal principle. It's becoming harder for me to justify paying the sorts of prices I'm seeing for a good swathe of commercial beer. I'm certainly willing to pay within reason for a good barrel aged stout, quad, RIS, or a number of other styles that are more involved to brew. I'm less willing to plunk down some of the prices I'm seeing for simpler styles that while solid, are nothing terribly exceptional. I guess it's safe to say my purchasing decisions are driven by my personal perception of the value of a beer at its price point.
     
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  20. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Maybe someday you will 'take the plunge' and make these types of beers?

    I homebrewed a Quad (my second time brewing this beer) last spring (June 2017) and it my intention to drink these beers over the next 4-5 years. I drank one a week ago and boy o' boy that beer was tasty. I sure hope I have the fortitude to let these beers last for another few years.

    Cheers!

    P.S. There is a real economic reason to brew a beer like a Quad. Two cases of a Trappist beer like this would cost me hundreds of dollars. Needless to say I brewed these beers for significantly less than that.
     
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