ECY01 Sours

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  1. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
    Pooh-Bah


    See, thats what I'm thinking. I think sours and whatnot would benefit from having the yeast do some carbonation, scavenging what little o2 is in there, and perhaps allowed it to truly age with the yeast.

    I could just put the beer into the keg with the priming solution, and beer gun it still. I'd be able to purge and whatnot, and get a better end product, I think.

    I've got these really nice thick 500ml punted bottom bottles that take crimp cap for my sours when I bottle them. I should bottle condition with these because they are perfect to keep the dregs on the bottom after aging.
     
  2. RashyGrillCook

    RashyGrillCook Initiate (0) Apr 30, 2011 Florida

    Grist was
    50% Malted White Wheat
    40% Floor Malted Pils
    10% Flaked Wheat
    And acid malt as needed(<8oz)

    ~8ibus of tettnanger

    Mashed at 158* @60 min, but here is where I got weird(I guess because I was born a contrarian). I held back half of the flaked wheat until the boil. While the boil was just starting I pulled some wort and mixed it with the rest of the flaked wheat in a separate container. Let that mixture gel-up and get all starchy adding more hot wort as needed. I then strained the starchy liquid back into the boil. (took ~15 min).

    Carbed it low on purpose shooting for around 1 volume of C02 to match the style guidelines for a Straight Unblended Lambic. I was not worried about the yeast being dead. In fact, when I topped off the fermentor with fresh wort (after bottling 2.5 gals) a krausen kicked up in ~24 hrs.

    I don't have a kegging setup, but I can say that I have had plenty of good sours on tap(if they were forced or naturally carbed I can't say). However, the best sours I've had were out of the bottle, and I will also say that Firestone's Barrelworks beers are FAR better out of the bottle than on tap.
     
  3. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
    Pooh-Bah

    Similar recipes. I used mostly floor malted pils, white wheat, maris otter and some flaked oats along with a little acid malt and around 8 IBU's with vanguard.

    I made sure to get a pretty starchy and murky runnings. Can't remember my exact mash steps, it's wrote down somewhere.

    Thanks for the feedback.
     
  4. bushycook

    bushycook Zealot (681) Jan 31, 2011 Virginia

    Yeah, I know you know what you're doing, I was just providing a little anecdotal evidence. It was the only time I've been able to try a sour both ways. I've had Cantillon Classic Gueuze on tap at Zwanze, but I think those bladders they have for draft are primed, not sure. @RashyGrillCook I've been to Cantillon and tasted the 1 year lambic, I thought it was pretty undrinkable, but very interesting in that it gives you an idea of the building blocks of a gueuze. The barrel room there smells just like it tasted, like rotting horse innards. The ultimate funk!
     
  5. RashyGrillCook

    RashyGrillCook Initiate (0) Apr 30, 2011 Florida

    Rotting horse innards? yum. Right now mine(@just over a year) tastes mostly of citrus and lemon. The difference could be the open inoculation versus specific isolated strains being pitched.
     
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