Effeciency

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by Noodles, Aug 29, 2013.

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  1. fuzzbalz

    fuzzbalz Pundit (953) Apr 13, 2002 Georgia


    I do "no-sparge" brewing so I've never used it that way before. If you add to much I think they say it can give your beer a salty taste, if you google it you can find out more, kind of a mix bag of info out there on weather it works or not. I just use half of what the instructions call for, sorry I'm at work and I don't have my notes.
     
  2. soheadyithurts

    soheadyithurts Zealot (551) Jan 4, 2013 Massachusetts

    I had huge issues with efficiency until I started stirring the heck out of the grain bed before I vorlauf. Giving the mash a solid stir and then stir some more was my way of hitting the OG dead on when batch sparging.
     
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  3. barfdiggs

    barfdiggs Initiate (0) Mar 22, 2011 California

    There have been tests done using pH 5.2 stabilizer that shows that it does absolutely zilch to help you hit the correct mash temp, in fact it actually hurts your chances of hitting the correct mash pH. You're better off buying phosphoric acid and pickling lime to hit your mash pH.

    I will find the source and post it when I have a chance.
     
  4. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    Brun'water makes the case agin the 5.2 stabilizer product where you're water ain't super alkaline.
     
  5. Grohnke

    Grohnke Initiate (0) Sep 15, 2009 Illinois


    You wont break down the starches to sugars at those temps.
     
  6. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I think that's the point he's trying to make... that conversion would suck, but that you might get starches dissolved that would contribute to gravity. At 100F, I don't think the starches are soluble. But at 180F, they should be. Also at 180F, I bet there would be some conversion to sugars before all of the enzymes are denatured, because contrary to popular belief, there really is no magic mashout temperature above which they instantly fall apart. It's always a race between conversion (influenced by the enzyme's efficiency at a particular temp) and denaturing...the temp largely determines which one ultimately wins the race.
     
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  7. Grohnke

    Grohnke Initiate (0) Sep 15, 2009 Illinois

    ahh, yea i had trouble understanding what he was trying to do
     
  8. Tebuken

    Tebuken Initiate (0) Jun 6, 2009 Argentina

    Could you please make a detailed description of your mashing process?
     
  9. kbuzz

    kbuzz Initiate (0) Jan 22, 2011 North Carolina

    I bet this resolution is somewhere within the answer to this question. Just a hunch. The only time I thought I was getting poor efficiency, it was because my refractometer wasn't calibrated properly.

    Or if a hydrometer is being used, is the sample being cooled first?
     
  10. RobM77

    RobM77 Initiate (0) Feb 14, 2013 Illinois

    For me, it seems when I crush the grains myself at home in a victoria mill (finer crush), I get higher efficiency and better to target OG, when I have the homebrew shops crush my grains (or I use their equipment and crush myself at their establishment) my efficiency suffers. So, for me, it seems to be mostly in the grain crush. Also, duration of the mash, I've used Beersmith and in some cases it tells me the mash is 45 minutes, when really, I think it should be closer to 60 minutes.
     
  11. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Beersmith tries to decide mash length? That's kind of goofy. Mash length is one of your fermenatibility 'knobs.' And since Beersmith doesn't change attenuation based on mash length, I wonder why it would presume to recommend any particular length.
     
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