eisbock

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  1. basickness

    basickness Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2013 Pennsylvania

    So I live in the northeast and mext week its supposed to be 30 below... I have a milk stout that is ready for secondary. These are not the original plans I had for it, but at this.point... I was thinking about putting it out in the cold to freeze off some of the water and make an eisbock. Tell.me your thoughts.
     
  2. ryane

    ryane Initiate (0) Nov 21, 2007 Washington

    I say put it in a keg, purge with CO2, toss in your freezer before to get it as cold as possible, and then outside, once frozen drain what thaws using pressure into another keg
     
  3. basickness

    basickness Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2013 Pennsylvania

    I only have 1 keg and my freezer isnt big enough to put a keg in. Ive made apple jack using the same freezing process, im.just wondering how the beer will turn out and if its worth doing. It was a $40 kit fwiw.
     
  4. MrOH

    MrOH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,995) Jul 5, 2010 Virginia
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  5. ryane

    ryane Initiate (0) Nov 21, 2007 Washington

    Then freeze a gallon or so, probably wont need to toss it outside though
     
  6. barfdiggs

    barfdiggs Initiate (0) Mar 22, 2011 California

    Any flaws in the beer will be magnified by eis-ing, so if your beer has anything off putting about it, I'd nix the idea. That being said, I say eis a gallon of it. You'll learn from the process and might make something interesting in the process.
     
  7. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    I like the suggestion to freeze only a gallon to see what you get. Personally I don't think I'd like a milk stout as an eisbeer. For whatever reason I think fruity beers lend themselves best to this process.
     
  8. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    Fruity by yeast, hops, or fruit additions?
     
  9. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    I'm thinking something like a raspberry or blueberry wheat ale. I've never tried one, nor have I ever tried to make one, so this is just a this-is-the-way-it-should-be feeling.
     
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  10. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    I've never really had the style. I don't count Natty Ice as a fair judgment. I just assumed if I wanted an extra .5% alcohol in my beer I'd add sugar or I'd add grain and take a higher FG. Maybe others can lead me from my ways. :slight_smile:
     
  11. Homebrew42

    Homebrew42 Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2006 New York

    Eis-milk stout sounds gross.
     
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  12. basickness

    basickness Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2013 Pennsylvania

    Eis milk does sound gross, but the kuhnhenn raspberry eis bock tasted like chocolate raspberry cake. I was aiming at that. Another question would be, do I need to add more yeast to it for bottling? I was worried the extreme cold would kill the live yeast needed to carb it. Btw. Im not looking for an extra .5%.....
     
  13. hopsandmalt

    hopsandmalt Initiate (0) Dec 14, 2006 Michigan

    I say if you want to make an eisbock than make one from the start. You made a milk stout so keep it that way.

    I don't make a Bavarian hefe and dryhop the shit out of it because I decide I'd rather have an IPA.

    Of course, in the end, it's your beer, do what you want. It might be delicious.
     
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  14. bgjohnston

    bgjohnston Initiate (0) Jan 14, 2009 Connecticut

    I like experimentation as much as anybody, but you didn't say whether you have brewed this beer before and know what to expect from it when done normally. An experiment is fine, but it's hard to say what you will gain from making changes to the process if you don't have a baseline for comparison.

    I would try it if I thought it would change the usual result in an interesting way, though, and if that's where you're at, then go for it.
     
  15. jmw

    jmw Initiate (0) Feb 4, 2009 North Carolina

    He has brewed this milk stout repeatedly, to the point that I think he may have stock in the producer of the kit, but I am fairly confident he has no knowledge of what it is like when done normally.
     
  16. basickness

    basickness Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2013 Pennsylvania

    I have brewed it a few times before. I was thinking the eis'ing would concentrate the craminess/chocolate of it.
     
  17. bgjohnston

    bgjohnston Initiate (0) Jan 14, 2009 Connecticut

    I have re-brewed beers, changing one variable at a time over the course of many batches to experiment with different results. It's part of the fun, and part of the learning process for me. I say go for it.
     
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