Enough with the hops already!

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by chapeti, Aug 29, 2013.

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  1. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Do you get bummed in the fall with all the Oktoberfests, Pumpkin Ales, and Stouts that dominate? Spring/Summer is hot weather PA/IPA time.

    The beer store I go to has Belgian and German styles available year round, you could walk right past the hoppy brews altogether.
     
  2. ESHBG

    ESHBG Pooh-Bah (2,099) Jul 30, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    Ha ha same here! Flower Power, Victory Hop Devil, etc, etc., I can enjoy often.
     
  3. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    To me, pale ale/IPA time is all year round. Spring/summer is maibock, hefeweizen, berliner weisse time...etc.

    Belgian and German styles made by American breweries? If not, what are the dates on those German imports?
     
  4. WiscoBrewsco

    WiscoBrewsco Zealot (667) Dec 7, 2012 Wisconsin

    Big hopped beers are fantastic. Hopslam and Heady Topper and Pliny the Elder are easily some of, if not the best beers I have ever had. And when you taste Heady Topper you realize that it pushes the boundaries of what you thought were even possible in a DIPA and really beer in general for that matter. If beers like Heady Topper and Hopslam are the standard bearers now, then I can't wait to see how they can be topped. Long live hops
     
  5. SerialTicker

    SerialTicker Pooh-Bah (2,851) Jun 18, 2012 Missouri
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    No. I'm not HUGE on pumpkin beers, but I can enjoy just about any style.
     
  6. RangnaR

    RangnaR Initiate (0) Dec 17, 2012 California

    The way the OP feels about hoppy beers is how I feel about wild, sour, funky, barnyard, farmhouse, ranch-hand, wet horse blanket, and Brett beers.. But guess what? I just don't drink them!
     
  7. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Not a clue, there's always a big selection of English brews too. I Iike
    English Bitters, not so much on German beers. If I was tired of PAs and Ipa's I'd go for English brews.
     
  8. Kanger

    Kanger Initiate (0) Sep 3, 2013 New York

    Enough with the hops? There are plenty of non-hoppy beers out there.

    I see more beers being whiskey/bourbon "barrel aged" nowadays which I personal don't have the palate for.
     
  9. RangnaR

    RangnaR Initiate (0) Dec 17, 2012 California

    Judging by the complaints (enough with the [hops/barrel aged beers/funky,etc.]) it seems like there's a decent balance and variety of beers available out there... so maybe a little less hate, and a little more celebrate (with a beer, preferably)?
     
  10. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    Here's an example. I went to the bar Sunday night, and literally half the draft list were hop-forward beers. It was hot out, so I was looking for a nice hefeweizen or maybe a pilsner. It's also Oktoberfest season, so I was craving one of those. This is a place with about 40 taps, my choices for the above were Weihenstephaner Hefeweizen, Victory Festbier, or Radeberger Pilsner....that's it.

    And I'm not against hoppy beers, I was at the same bar the day before and had a Stone Enjoy By. But having more variety would certainly be refreshing.
     
  11. creal92

    creal92 Initiate (0) Feb 24, 2013 Kentucky

    Pennsylvania only gets IPAs sent to them or something :rolling_eyes: ? I'm not even from that large of a city and we get all kinds of imports and beers from around the US, plenty of which are not that hoppy.
     
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  12. GeddyLeeRocks

    GeddyLeeRocks Initiate (0) Oct 14, 2012 Pennsylvania

    It may not be that they were not selling but, rather, that most stores have a limited amount of space on their shelves and they think, "Why should I sell a six pack of Spaten Lager and make $2 profit when I could use the same space for (Inserted the latest limited release of your choice) and make $12 profit!
     
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  13. GeddyLeeRocks

    GeddyLeeRocks Initiate (0) Oct 14, 2012 Pennsylvania

    That, kind sir, is because you are an addict!
     
  14. ESHBG

    ESHBG Pooh-Bah (2,099) Jul 30, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    And your state sells beer freely in grocery and convenience stores, correct? Point being you are comparing apples to oranges and it is a much tighter market here in PA. Like GeddyLeeRocks correctly states, it boils down to economics and in PA craft beer, an already niche market, gets even tighter because of our laws. Add this in to the fact that IPAs/hoppy beers have been the in thing for some time now, and there you have it.

    Am I saying that you can't find anything but IPAs here and we have no other choices at all? Of course not. But from what I see regularly our scales in many craft beer bars are tipped in favor of the hops and I have walked into bars and have seen their ENTIRE tap list being nothing but IPAs and overly hopped beers. This seems to be changing, though, and I say thankfully.
     
  15. Zorro

    Zorro Grand Pooh-Bah (3,258) Dec 25, 2003 California
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    How about American breweries using Hefeweizen and Belgian Witbier yeast strains in thier wheat beers instead of making hoppy wheat beers?

    Using a proper yeast and tuning the fermentation temperatures can do much for flavor.
     
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  16. Preluderl

    Preluderl Pooh-Bah (1,796) Sep 27, 2012 Pennsylvania
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    Eh, fine by me. The hop heads can scoop that stuff up, leaves more of the rest for me.
     
  17. shawnohall

    shawnohall Zealot (705) Nov 8, 2009 Texas

    Hops are more and more prevalent because people are diggin' it and buying it. I'm sure you can find less hoppy beers to enjoy. Come on, man, you can do it! I have faith in you.
     
  18. JimKal

    JimKal Savant (1,213) Jul 31, 2011 North Carolina

    Thanks for that. I've been using their American II 1272 for most of my home-brews but this gives me some alternatives to consider.
     
  19. otispdriftwood

    otispdriftwood Initiate (0) Dec 9, 2011 Colorado

    Yes, and damned proud of it!
     
  20. themind

    themind Initiate (0) Mar 14, 2011 New Jersey

    I am so sick of IPA's! I now drink double IPA's....so much better! :confused:
     
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