Environmentally sound ways to cool beer

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by elNopalero, Apr 1, 2025.

  1. elNopalero

    elNopalero Grand Pooh-Bah (5,822) Oct 14, 2009 Michigan
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    There’s a thread about a new invention that promises to instantly cool individual beer cans which got me thinking about actual sustainable and environmentally sound ways of cooling packaged containers, such as while camping, when the powers out and there’s no ice around.

    I’ve used the cold river trick—while tubing in Texas—but that’s as far as my knowledge and experience goes.

    I’ve read but never tried using a wet towel wrapped around a can. Something something heat transfer. And in the old timey days pre refrigeration were cellars cool enough to preserve the suds?

    Curious what else is out there!
     
  2. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    That would be a situation of evaporative cooling akin to how you cool your body by sweating when you are hot. This 'trick' will not get beer down to refrigerator temperature.
    A full cellar will be in the 50's. Warm by refrigerator temperature standards but some beer styles are intended to drink at this sort of temperature. I will sometimes just take my homebrewed English Bitter Ales that I store in my cellar and drink them at cellar temperature.

    Hopefully some other BAs have novel ideas here.

    Cheers!
     
  3. Orca

    Orca Grand Pooh-Bah (4,710) Sep 18, 2010 Washington
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    Nine years ago I went camping with my daughter down near Mount Rainier and stuck a couple cans of Cowiche Canyon in the creek not too far from our tent to chill (I still have evidence—thanks Imgur). Went for a little walk around the lake and when I got back they were gone! Later I saw another camper wandering around drinking one and I nearly lost my shit—gave him hell too. But it was too late. Never again.
     
  4. mactrail

    mactrail Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,999) Mar 24, 2009 Washington
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    I rely on the great outdoors to pre-cool, or chill my beer stash. The shady corner outside in a styro box on the bricks keeps beer quite cool during several months even in southern Calif. The cold garage or front porch in other places seems to work well for a lot of the year.
     
  5. SLeffler27

    SLeffler27 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,906) Feb 24, 2008 New York
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    This book does a great job of explaining a technique in simple terms.
    https://qpsychics.com/product/manual-of-cryokinesis/

    It’s a wonder how few people actually employ this practice.

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    Note: See my post in the other thread for additional information critical to fully understanding this concept.
     
  6. jageraholic

    jageraholic Pooh-Bah (1,632) Sep 16, 2009 Massachusetts
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    Think of the great day that guy had though. Although, he probably should have offered you one of his found treasures unless he didn't have time before the yelling started.
     
  7. elNopalero

    elNopalero Grand Pooh-Bah (5,822) Oct 14, 2009 Michigan
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    The best Cowiche Canyons are shared Cowiche Canyons.
     
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  8. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,652) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    I think acclimating oneself to drinking beer at non-fridge temperatures is a great way to reduce the carbon footprint of our beer drinking. And, in my opinion, beer consumed at non-fridge temperatures simply tastes better.

    I'm lucky to live in a very old house (by US standards) in New England. My unfinished fieldstone basement is fairly cold throughout the year. As a result I do not refrigerate beer for nine months out of the year. And even during the three months that I do refrigerate, it's just some styles (like lower abv lagers).
     
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  9. billlang

    billlang Zealot (545) Jul 20, 2020 Pennsylvania
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    Way back in the days of yore 70's a case of 12 oz cans and a fire extinguisher.
     
  10. elNopalero

    elNopalero Grand Pooh-Bah (5,822) Oct 14, 2009 Michigan
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    It was a different era back then!
     
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  11. HouseofWortship

    HouseofWortship Pooh-Bah (2,735) May 3, 2016 Illinois
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    Was this the guy?
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  12. MrOH

    MrOH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,995) Jul 5, 2010 Virginia
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    Depends on where you live. In more northern states, it'd work, but the basement of the house I grew up, while having a bit more of a consistent temperature than the rest of the house year round, only really got cold in January and February. Keep in mind that in a lot of the US, basements are rare in the first place.

    An interesting thing I learned about the rules about what temperature wine should be served at date back to the "Little Ice Age", and room and cellar temperature were probably about 10* cooler than present day.
     
  13. dcotom

    dcotom Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,637) Aug 4, 2014 Iowa
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    For a Mexican lager (whatever the hell that is :rolling_eyes:) I suppose you could skip the last step.

     
  14. LeinenkugelDrinker

    LeinenkugelDrinker Pooh-Bah (2,211) Feb 14, 2023 Nevada
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    Bringing a cooler from home packed with ice has always worked well for me in the past. The newer coolers keep items chilled for days when placed out of the direct sunlight.

    Now I have a camp trailer with a refrigerator and also bought a great little Briggs & Stratton generator (not really environmentally conscious but necessary when “camping” for four-five months at a time). In the few weeks of summertime I get up in AK, I’ll only have to run the generator once a week to keep my batteries charged. It gets much more use in August/September when the snow starts falling again!

    Anyways, I would personally be leery of storing beer cans in a natural body of water. Downstream you might have water that contains pesticides, sewage, fertilizers, while upstream you might have beaver fever, tularemia, all kinds of yummy stuff! I’m probably being too paranoid, it’s just something to take into consideration.

    :beers:
     
  15. MrOH

    MrOH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,995) Jul 5, 2010 Virginia
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    Yep, get a nice rotomolded cooler like a Yeti or one of the knock-off brands (I have a CaterGator), and if you put cold beverages in, fill with ice, and keep it in a shady spot, the ice lasts for 2-3 days even in summer.

    Those coolers aren't cheap, but worth not having to deal with the headache of refilling the ice daily, if not more often.
     
  16. LAFreeway

    LAFreeway Zealot (669) Aug 2, 2023 California

    A friend of mine bought a solar powered cooler / refrigerator for his week long camping trips. He showed me a picture and it looked like an ordinary cooler, but it cools like a refrigerator so no ice is needed, just sunlight. I think he has an extra battery in case the day is overcast, but it looked really cool and cost around $500.00 if I remember correctly.
     
  17. readyski

    readyski Pooh-Bah (1,557) Jun 4, 2005 California
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  18. Whyteboar

    Whyteboar Grand Pooh-Bah (4,286) Jun 7, 2008 Michigan
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    Kinda replicating a root cellar, which I am blessed to have. Back in my SCA days before Yeti coolers were invented, we had regular plastic coolers and during Pensic (a two week war in western PA) in August, a cooler placed in a hole just big enough for it an some solid insulation on top kept ice frozen almost a week. In 80 degrees or more often.
    Cheers!
     
  19. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    From an internet discussion about root cellars:

    “…the earth a foot or two down stays at 50 degrees Fahrenheit. and the root cellar uses that temperature.”

    I would suppose there may be some variation depending on where you live. For example, a bit cooler in Minnesota vs. Florida.

    My preference for many beer styles is to drink beers closer to 40 °F vs. 50 °F but I would much prefer a cool beer (e.g., 50’s F) vs. an warm beer.

    Cheers!
     
  20. crazyspicychef

    crazyspicychef Pooh-Bah (2,341) Sep 27, 2012 Pennsylvania
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    I as well use the outdoor cooler on the porch method for chilling beer & wine.
    Frees up frig space, especially during the holidays.