Epsom Salt

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  1. invertalon

    invertalon Pooh-Bah (2,249) Jan 27, 2009 Ohio
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    I have used epsom in the water adjustment for my IPA's... It brings my magnesium up from about 10ppm up to 15ppm... Very minor addition, but helps adding some of that sulfate as well to up my sulfate/chloride ratio along with the gypsum and calcium chloride of course.
     
  2. JohnSnowNW

    JohnSnowNW Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 Minnesota

    I use it, store it in an old WL vial.
     
  3. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    <== Epsom salt (MgSO4) user

    From the Bru'n Water spreadsheet ...
    Astringent > 40 ppm
    Preferred range: 0 - 30 ppm

    Malts typically provide sufficient Mg to wort for proper yeast health and flocculation.
    Add Mg when its bitter / sour taste is desirable (bitters; pale ales).
    No need to add to other styles.

    OldSock < 15
    Palmer 10 - 30

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    Martin suggested setting Mg and NaCl levels first before adding other salts / minerals (personal communication - 2015).
     
  4. InVinoVeritas

    InVinoVeritas Initiate (0) Apr 16, 2012 Wisconsin

    Not much new here. I target between 10 to 30 ppm of Mg.

    My water source, well water, is high in minerals or all of the big 6.

    I’m a little loose and generally speaking for light brews (i.e. Kolsch, Pale American Wheat, so on) I use 100% distilled water and therefore need the Epsom since the distilled is void of Mg. For medium brews (milds, Scottish ales) or dark brews (porters and stouts), I use between 20% to 40% max well water, which I get more than enough Mg and therefore don’t add Epsom. I’ve never don’t a controlled experiment with a recipe changing just the Epsom; I’ve still got too many high priorities in terms of recipe refinement.
     
  5. hoptualBrew

    hoptualBrew Initiate (0) May 29, 2011 Florida

    I used to use Epsom Salt to hit 10 ppm Mg in my brews. I never looked at it for flavor or mouthfeel contribution so much as as I did for yeast nutrition.
     
  6. dmtaylor

    dmtaylor Savant (1,149) Dec 30, 2003 Wisconsin

    It tastes horrible and is very easily overused or misused. I do use epsom on occasion but it is a very light fairy dust kind of amount like 1/8 teaspoon in 5 gallons. Do not - I repeat - do not use too much.
     
  7. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    If anyone cares, I've noticed some Burton Salts contain Papain and others do not...those of you lamenting "gravy beer" might try a little papain and/or Potassium Chloride with their Epsom salts...don't think there was any papain in the water of Burton-On-Trent though :slight_smile:
     
  8. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    That is indeed correct: no papain in the brewing water of the region Burton-on-Trent.

    Papain is an enzyme that is used in commercial brewing as a clarifer (to mitigate chill haze). I have no idea whether this was something that the breweries of Burton-on-Trent would have been using or not.

    Cheers!
     
  9. CavemanBrau

    CavemanBrau Initiate (0) Apr 5, 2013 Iowa

    My water reported 70 ppm Mg, and EVERY SINGLE NON-STOUT/PORTER had an astringent bitterness that I associated with my 60/FWH addition (as low as .25 oz Columbus). Once I built up from RO, this issue is a non-issue.
     
  10. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    That's almost laxative levels. Your community probably keeps pretty regular.
     
  11. CavemanBrau

    CavemanBrau Initiate (0) Apr 5, 2013 Iowa

    We doo alright.
     
  12. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    The next salt I intend to tinker with is MSG (monosodium glutamate). Its amazing flavor and lack of mention in How to Brew and Bru'n Water make it practically irresistible.
     
  13. CurtFromHershey

    CurtFromHershey Initiate (0) Oct 4, 2012 Minnesota

    Do a MSG milk stout. That would be the official "Curt is sleeping on the couch tonight" beer.
     
  14. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    I don't brew with lactose and MSG doesn't make you gassy. It's the rice that makes you gassy.
     
  15. CurtFromHershey

    CurtFromHershey Initiate (0) Oct 4, 2012 Minnesota

    The lactose makes you gassy and the MSG turns it rancid
     
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  16. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    We clearly have different gastrointestinal systems. It sounds like you need to get on probiotics or something.
     
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  17. CurtFromHershey

    CurtFromHershey Initiate (0) Oct 4, 2012 Minnesota

    Avoiding MSG is easy enough

    Very curious to hear about your MSG brewing adventures though
     
  18. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    Spring time Saison with Asian spices, orange peel and MSG. Might rack on a Peking duck too.
     
  19. CavemanBrau

    CavemanBrau Initiate (0) Apr 5, 2013 Iowa

    Betty, you're getting a bit feisty. Maybe you should soak your feet in a nice Epsom salt bath.
     
  20. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    I was feisty yesterday. I'm certainly not feisty today. Borderline rambunctious, maybe. The Asian spiced MSG beer with extra crispy Peking duck is a real thing. Not sure if I want to risk wasting that duck, though.

    Yesterday, it was determined a foot soak in epsom salt is basically only good for corn removal and I'm happy to say I've been corn free since 2010.
     
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