Erlenmeyer flask broke while heating: WTF?

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by MLucky, Nov 5, 2014.

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  1. billandsuz

    billandsuz Pooh-Bah (2,097) Sep 1, 2004 New York
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    By real deal stir plate you mean lab quality, with the ability to adjust the temperature of the plate I assume.
    Leave the heat off. We are making yeast here. A fancy bug from a bio-tech research facility would probably like to have some warmth, but 70 or so is just fine for our bugs.
    Cheers.
     
  2. ZDSmith87

    ZDSmith87 Initiate (0) Jul 18, 2014 Massachusetts

    Yes, I mean lab quality, up around $2,000 quality, that I got as a very generous gift. But without a user manual!
     
  3. MLucky

    MLucky Initiate (0) Jul 31, 2010 California

    In the vast majority of cases, no. Room temp is fine. Sorry if that wasn't clear above.
     
  4. Bwhamon

    Bwhamon Initiate (0) Aug 29, 2014 Kentucky

    I almost bought a couple of generic Erlenmeyer flasks from Amazon. Glad I did not after reading this. Thanks for the post OP.
     
  5. Ilanko

    Ilanko Initiate (0) Aug 3, 2012 New York

    I have blow a Pyrex measuring cup before and it's a big mess. From that point on I switch to flasks and heat it in a stock pot filled with water as mediator.
    In large starter volume I use my trusted pressure cooker to boil the starter wort.
    The pressure cooker reduce time period need to sensitize the wort.
     
  6. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    No. Although some folks do their Lager starters at more lager fermermention-like temps. I don't normally do that myself, but I wouldn't say they are wrong, either.
     
  7. ronobvious2

    ronobvious2 Initiate (0) Aug 24, 2010 Tennessee

    Given that, is there any real reason to decant the wort once the starter is done?
     
  8. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Grand Pooh-Bah (3,452) May 21, 2010 Texas
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    Never particularly trusted glass containers on the stove, no matter what the brand. I've never had stainless steel break on the stove when making starters. :rolling_eyes:

    Use a regular pot with a good lid. Heat, boil, cool with lid on. Add to sanitized flask, put on stir plate (or whatever you do with it at that point).

    You'll Never have that problem again. :sunglasses:
     
  9. WickedSluggy

    WickedSluggy Savant (1,129) Nov 21, 2008 Texas

    I always decant the starter liquid. It's disgusting stuff (very oxidized). The idea of pouring two or three liters of it into my beer kinda triggers my gag reflex. But I typically make bigger starters than a lot of homebrewers.
     
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  10. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Taste your finished starter sometime and decide for yourself. I decant. But it's funny how many people will painstakingly develop a recipe, and then dump a liter or more of spent starter into their 5 gallon batch.
     
  11. ronobvious2

    ronobvious2 Initiate (0) Aug 24, 2010 Tennessee

    OK, this makes sense.
     
  12. ryane

    ryane Initiate (0) Nov 21, 2007 Washington

    This is all I do, although Ive switched from mason jars to wide mouth nalgene bottles = shatterproof, go ahead ask me why I like them.......
     
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  13. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    I'm looking to probably start pressure canning wort as well. Seems easy enough to do so, put them in a box, and save them for when I need a starter. Pour into the flask, add the yeast, turn on the plate.

    Do you add nutrient to the DME and water in the jars when you can?
     
  14. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    I have no problem using the entire starter if NOT using a stir plate and keeping the temps reasonable.
     
  15. DrewBeechum

    DrewBeechum Pooh-Bah (1,954) Mar 15, 2003 California
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    I can only imagine - which bottles are you using now?

    Yup, it's an imprecise amount of a "pinch" :slight_smile: But regardless, there's always nutrient onboarded into the jars.
     
  16. ryane

    ryane Initiate (0) Nov 21, 2007 Washington

    http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/item.aspx?itemid=34243&catid=658

    At ~7$/bottle they aren't exactly dirt cheap, but neither was the autoclave I use them in :slight_smile:

    I have 10 of them and actually only fill them with extra wort left over from brewing (I squeeze out the hops and then sterilize in the autoclave). I havent had to boil or cool wort to make a starter in years, and it has been awesome!
     
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  17. Scumbag81

    Scumbag81 Initiate (0) Sep 10, 2014 California
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    Ditto. Autoclaving your starters is the way to go. Been three years since I've done anything but either sterilize wort left over from a batch or throw DME and water together on a hot stir plate before autoclaving.
     
  18. firstthenlast

    firstthenlast Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2013 Massachusetts

    electric stove breaks them...
     
  19. BumpkinBrewer

    BumpkinBrewer Pundit (993) Jan 6, 2010 Massachusetts

    Anyone heat their flask with a glass top electric stove?
    My first attempt I used a double boiler but the flask was jittering/clanking as the water around it boiled so I pulled it out and put it right on the burner. I was successful but don't want to push my luck next time.
     
  20. minderbender

    minderbender Initiate (0) Jan 18, 2009 New York

    In case it's useful for anyone, @OldSock has recently written a post about using a pressure cooker to can starter wort. It seems like a good investment if it's something you do often enough. Just make sure you know what you are doing in terms of ensuring that the wort is sterile.
     
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