Etiquette question...

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  1. jrman1386

    jrman1386 Devotee (392) Oct 22, 2011 Illinois
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    I recently posted an ISO:FT thread that generated a fair amount of interest. I had a few things I was looking for, all of them were not equal wants, and Ideally I wanted to wait for my top want...even though it probably has less perceived "value" then some of the others.

    My question is this...

    When dealing with a crowded inbox, how do you respond to people? I didn't want to say I wasn't interested, because I was...I didn't want to negotiate with them because I wanted to wait and see if my top want came through...and I didn't want to ignore them because a few of them were sending my lots of messages, asking for a response either way. When I tried to tell them that I was waiting to see if I can work something else out, they just kept sending other offers as if I wanted more, I didn't want more, I wanted something different. I eventually made a deal for my top want, and I felt bad because I had a feeling those people trying to negotiate with me felt jilted.

    How should I have handles this?
     
    #1 jrman1386, Jun 16, 2013
  2. Lasering

    Lasering Initiate (0) Mar 19, 2013 Florida

    I would just tell them you were looking for a certain top want. Or next time include that X beer has to be in the trade.
     
    #2 Lasering, Jun 16, 2013
  3. jrman1386

    jrman1386 Devotee (392) Oct 22, 2011 Illinois
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    It didn't have to be in the trade. My inbox exploded instantly, and I just wanted to wait and see if someone was going to offer my top want before I made a deal.

    I did tell them that, and that's when it turned into an auction, they kept offering more...which I try to avoid.

    I did end up getting my top want. Which was significantly less $4$, ounces, beer units, then some of the other offers.
     
    #3 jrman1386, Jun 16, 2013
  4. Kayn169

    Kayn169 Initiate (0) Jan 9, 2011 Illinois

    I actually just dealt with this, from the other side, and it is pretty frustrating. In my opinion, if you have 1 bottle you want way more than the rest, make the ISO just for that bottle first. Maybe include that you would like to expand with the rest. When you say ISO a bunch of beers, and then turn down tons of offers, including multiple bottles in the ISO, it looks like an auction. Start with the one you want. If that doesn't work, open it up to the others.
     
    #4 Kayn169, Jun 16, 2013
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  5. jrman1386

    jrman1386 Devotee (392) Oct 22, 2011 Illinois
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    I would have gladly taken any of the bottles in my ISO list. But I wanted to wait an hour to see what was offered. I had 20 offers within 5 minutes. I've never dealt with that.
     
    #5 jrman1386, Jun 16, 2013
  6. Lasering

    Lasering Initiate (0) Mar 19, 2013 Florida

    Yeah that's were it becomes auction-ish. If you are searching through offers when you are looking for a certain beer. When you should have just clarified in the isoft that you were hoping for a certain beer.
     
    #6 Lasering, Jun 16, 2013
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  7. c64person

    c64person Initiate (0) Mar 20, 2010 Michigan

    Is that how trading is done now? I thought it was ISO: X FT: Y, and the person who offers me Y is who gets X.

    If you are so bold to say that you are waiting for the best offer or your highest want, why not just be so bold with the people who you potentially are trading with and just tell them, "Hey, that's great, but I really want this instead." See how that works out, maybe that person has the bottle you actually 'want', maybe not, if they don't you weren't going to trade with them anyways.

    Then again, maybe I read your whole concept above incorrectly.
     
    #7 c64person, Jun 16, 2013
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  8. Lasering

    Lasering Initiate (0) Mar 19, 2013 Florida

    Otherwise you should have taken the first offer that included what you posted iso even if it didn't include the certain beer that you didn't clarify should be included. Just my opinion.
     
    #8 Lasering, Jun 16, 2013
  9. jrman1386

    jrman1386 Devotee (392) Oct 22, 2011 Illinois
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    so what I should have done is post FT: X ISO: Y...then post again in 30min. FT: X ISO: A or B.

    Because Y was more of a want then A or B.

    And when I tell someone "Sorry, give me some time to see if someone offers Y" and they say "But I'll give you A and f and z" that's an auction...even if I was upfront with them.
     
    #9 jrman1386, Jun 16, 2013
  10. Lasering

    Lasering Initiate (0) Mar 19, 2013 Florida

    Not as long as you were upfront with them about Y. After that it's just them being butthurt that you didn't like their offer.
     
    #10 Lasering, Jun 16, 2013
  11. jrman1386

    jrman1386 Devotee (392) Oct 22, 2011 Illinois
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    Ok. So I did what I should have.
     
    #11 jrman1386, Jun 16, 2013
  12. Lasering

    Lasering Initiate (0) Mar 19, 2013 Florida

    I think so now after more clarification.
     
    #12 Lasering, Jun 16, 2013
  13. jrman1386

    jrman1386 Devotee (392) Oct 22, 2011 Illinois
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    I think there's a fair amount of butthurt over this beer at the moment. So that might have something to do with it.
     
    #13 jrman1386, Jun 16, 2013
  14. JulianB

    JulianB Initiate (0) Feb 1, 2012 South Carolina

    If they ask I tell them I'm shipping mustard barbecue sauce to friends who love it but can't get it locally.
     
    #14 JulianB, Jun 16, 2013
  15. jrman1386

    jrman1386 Devotee (392) Oct 22, 2011 Illinois
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    Wrong thread...but good call. I say artwork.
     
    #15 jrman1386, Jun 16, 2013
  16. JulianB

    JulianB Initiate (0) Feb 1, 2012 South Carolina

    Haha oops. That's what I get for reading multiple threads at once in my phone.
     
    #16 JulianB, Jun 16, 2013
  17. jrman1386

    jrman1386 Devotee (392) Oct 22, 2011 Illinois
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    I gotchya...I almost did the same thing with the same threads.
     
    #17 jrman1386, Jun 16, 2013
  18. pjeagles

    pjeagles Zealot (682) May 29, 2005 New Mexico
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    I just reply that I'm holding out for my top want- a bottle of mustard barbecue sauce.
     
    #18 pjeagles, Jun 16, 2013
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  19. c64person

    c64person Initiate (0) Mar 20, 2010 Michigan

    Was said mustard a limited 300 bottle release in California? Best I can offer is greatest the Midwest has to offer, French's.
     
    #19 c64person, Jun 16, 2013
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  20. cbeer88

    cbeer88 Initiate (0) Sep 5, 2007 Massachusetts

    Inbox explosions tend to happen pretty quickly and then fall off drastically after a couple of hours. I tend to just wait for the initial rush to die down, then go through them. The first offer that hits the mark and doesn't seem like an ass usually gets the deal. If nobody quite hit it, I'll go back to the 2-3 closest and see if we can expand a bit to get it there. If everybody is way off (usually looking for a specific bottle only) I'll just wait.

    I don't respond to everybody. If it's a ton of people I'll just post "this is closed, sorry I couldn't get back to everyone" in the ISO/FT. If it's a smaller group, I'll respond to the people who at least made an attempt at writing the English language and didn't lowball me.
     
    #20 cbeer88, Jun 17, 2013
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