Ever experience a macro beer snob?

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  1. yemenmocha

    yemenmocha Grand Pooh-Bah (4,116) Jun 18, 2002 Arizona
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    I'm going to wager that kolsch, kristal Weisse, bohemian pils, helles, dortmunder are also not craft as well.
     
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  2. barleywinefiend

    barleywinefiend Initiate (0) Nov 22, 2007 Washington

    What is it with everyones uncle drinking sharty beer? Including my own.
     
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  3. Rohkey

    Rohkey Initiate (0) Jan 13, 2013 Michigan

    Not sure if this qualifies, but on multiple occasions I've gone into an American chain restaurant said, "I'm in the mood for a beer, do you have any craft brews?," and their response is often, "Sure we have just about everything - Heineken, Corona, Blue Moon, Coors, Bud, etc." and when I say "Oh, nevermind," they give me this weird look as if I'm crazy for not being able to find something I like from their great list. I don't want to argue the point because I realize I shouldn't expect some of these places to have anything better, and that they probably don't even know what craft beer is, but I always want to say something about it...

    On one occasion the waiter tried to get me to order a Blue Moon when I told them I liked higher quality stuff than your average American adjunct, and we got into it a bit until I gave up. It was clear he thought that Blue Moon was a true specialty beer and didn't know anything about beer, and I'm a pretty non-confrontational person.
     
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  4. dmeadows

    dmeadows Initiate (0) Aug 6, 2002 New York

    Yes, almost as unsufferable as a craft beer snob.
     
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  5. trentbrown89

    trentbrown89 Initiate (0) Feb 13, 2013 California

    He was prolly thinking of Firestone... The tire company. The subconscious mind haha.
     
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  6. 77black_ships

    77black_ships Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2012 Belgium

    If Leffe is about as craft as Bud Platinum.
     
  7. acevenom

    acevenom Initiate (0) Oct 7, 2011 Louisiana

    Duvel is one I certainly don't mind revisiting from time to time and the Duvel tulip is certainly a pretty useful glass when drinking Belgian pales or Belgian strong pales. That said, I've always been interested in trying the good or great beers from countries that you just don't commonly see on American shelves outside of mix packs. There's certainly nothing wrong with a beer geek appreciating Duvel, but I've also met beer geeks who don't care for Duvel all that much.

    I've always been one to say, "Drink what you like." It's not very important to be educated about it if all you want to do is drink it. However, if we're to think of beer as food, then being a little educated about beer quality, ingredients, containers, and styles isn't a bad idea. If someone likes the skunked flavor of a clear bottled Corona and wants to mask it with lime, who am I to judge in the end? I don't like eating at McDonald's, but I'm not going to tell people not to eat there.
     
  8. 77black_ships

    77black_ships Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2012 Belgium

    Yes, totally agree - I actually like Duvel and its availability etc.
    The praise that they usually get is a bit odd but they make some nice beers and have managed to put out an admirable quality considering their size and output. Making Duvel the old way is sadly simply impossible probably with their output even if they wanted to. They are doing better than Rodenbach who I feel have let the quality slip a bit too much - the special stuff is excellent still but unfortunately pasteurized. It is probably pretty hard to mass produce a sour.
     
  9. Tut

    Tut Pundit (872) Sep 23, 2004 New York

    .........and I still think you're full of it. You simply don't like that style and you've got a burr up your butt re: Duvel. There may be better examples of blond ales, but that doesn't mean Duvel is crap.
     
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  10. herrburgess

    herrburgess Grand Pooh-Bah (3,077) Nov 4, 2009 South Carolina
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    Westvleteren also changed to accommodate increased demand and production and was (recently) available everywhere. Does that make it somehow worthy of derision? Same with Orval. Can't help but think the "fizzy yellow" factor plays a considerable role in all of this somehow. Maybe it's just me....
     
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  11. 77black_ships

    77black_ships Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2012 Belgium

    As stated above – I actually admire Duvel for keeping a reasonable quality with the increase of production. I have seen worse… Many beer geeks in Belgium who have been around for much longer than me have said that it has declined quite a bit. They fact that they accommodated is a mere fact.
    Westvleteren is not really a valid comparison, they barely increased their production, most of the 6 packs were created by selling less of in Belgium. Lot of their changes over the years were organic & due to changing availability of products etc. Orval’s change has also been organic and much, much smaller scale than Duvel. Dupont would probably be a better comparison in growth.

    The fizzy, yellow thing is not a factor - I am aware of the term - but not being an USA beer geek, it carries no cultural etc. connotation for me. I adore Taras Boulba which is both fizzy and yellow.
     
  12. BMitch

    BMitch Crusader (459) Jul 10, 2012 Virginia

    Ignorance, preconceived notions, extreme bias, assumptions, parrotting...


    all of the fine characteristics of your standard everyday moron.
     
  13. LeperJim

    LeperJim Pooh-Bah (2,704) Feb 10, 2008 Ohio
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    Why are craft beer drinkers always "the snobs"? It is my opinion that macro beer drinkers are the true snobs. In many cases their loyalty is close to obsessive. They believe they're choice of brew is the very best and all others are worthless drain pours. I've seen them literally turn their nose up (snob-like) when a great craft beer is an option. They are the ones extremely narrow minded and dismissive. Where as the craft beer advocate is open minded and diverse when it comes beer. We embrace many styles and enjoy 1,000's of spectacular options from 1,000's of breweries ~ that doesn't sound snobby to me but that's the conventional wisdom. Of course none of this bothers me nor I'm sure most of my diverse beer drinking companions on BeerAdvocate.
     
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  14. AwesomeSquad

    AwesomeSquad Initiate (0) Sep 30, 2010 Missouri

    This might be the first concession I have ever seen on the internet.

    Please excuse me while my head explodes.
     
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  15. AwesomeSquad

    AwesomeSquad Initiate (0) Sep 30, 2010 Missouri

    I got a beer with a buddy from work a while ago.

    He ordered a Heineken, so of course I gave him shit about it "You drink Heineken??"

    To which he replied "Yeah, I'm a bit of a beer snob"

    I then smashed my pint glass and cut off my own head.
     
  16. Blueribbon666

    Blueribbon666 Pooh-Bah (1,669) Jul 4, 2008 Ohio
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    Nice post. On the cider side of things which seem to be getting a bigger audience, if you're not a Woodchuck fan or even Hornsby's what cider do you prefer? Left a bit of a cliff hanger there...:wink:
     
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  17. Roguer

    Roguer Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,811) Mar 25, 2013 Connecticut
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    Sorry, wasn't meant to be. My favorite cider is Kelly's Irish, kegged in Ireland, bottled by the Florida Beer Company, so it's hard to find (and impossible in the northeast). I do like Woodchuck's Autumn and Winter, I'm just not a big fan of their year-round offerings. Angry Orchard (from Sam Adams/Boston Beer) isn't bad at all, although it's a little overly acidic toward the end of a bottle (better on tap). Hornsby's is OK, I hate Magner's (it's got an ultra-malty finish that just hits my throat the wrong way), yadda yadda.

    In short, if you're in Florida, give Kelly's a try. If Woodchuck's too sweet, Angry Orchard might suit you better.
     
  18. Blueribbon666

    Blueribbon666 Pooh-Bah (1,669) Jul 4, 2008 Ohio
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    Haven't done cider in awhile as I was having odd reactions to it. I have the same reactions when I drink Long Island Ice Tea...after a couple I get crazy red blotches on my face, neck & shoulders. Something with the mix of alcohol I'm sure...I can continue to drink 'em it's just crazy for people to see, "Dude, WTF?? maybe you should switch" yeah yeah yeah...I'll switch you:rolling_eyes:
     
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  19. yemenmocha

    yemenmocha Grand Pooh-Bah (4,116) Jun 18, 2002 Arizona
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    Very well said. 'Like' isn't enough here.
     
  20. litheum94

    litheum94 Initiate (0) Dec 29, 2008 California

    Most of the Macro-only drinkers I encounter could be classified as snobs. The Macro that they love is the best beer in the world, and everything else (especially craft) is for sissies or tastes disgusting. My dad was kind of like that, but he would try anything I offered him. He still drinks Bud, but he also likes a couple of good beers like Sneak Attack Saison from 21st Amendment.
     
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