Evil Twin Pricing?

I should clarify - if he was referring to high end as just all craft beer is high end, then I have nothing against his statement.

If he was just saying it was high end due to the price, then I disagree with his statement.

As far as beer geeks complaining, literally everyone complains about everything. It does not matter if it is beer, cars, phones, technology, to concert ticket prices. People complain when they perceive something as not worth the cost. It is not a beer geek phenomenon.

 

I think their beer is very overpriced. They have a few good ones (Molotov Lite, Sour Bikini, the Femme Fatale series). But they also have a lot of beers that I personally think straight up suck (Molotov Cocktail, Nomader Weisse, Porthole saison all come to mind, but there are more).

I also don't think their stouts are anywhere near as good as a lot of people do.

 

Ah ok gotcha.

Agreed it's in people's nature to complain. But I think it happens to varying degrees - and when it comes to beer it's definitely "high end" (sorry).

I mean the person in the market for an economy car is going to gaze longingly at the 200k Porsche (without complaining), laugh at the absurdity of the 200k Kia and wish them well with their bankruptcy (without complaining), and go and ultimately buy a Toyota etc.

Making it more apples to apples. The guy who's at the price point to buy Famous Grouse doesn't go off on an online rant about the price of Macallan 18. Or at least it happens less frequently. Either the Macallan is judged to be worthy of the price and it sells, or it isn't and it doesn't.

 

Iowa City and surrounding communities tend to leave ET on the shelf. For example, Biscotti Break seems to never run out (individually sure, but the next store will have it). Considering it's a very good beer, this tells me that my fellow beer drinkers think it's too expensive. I've never actually heard anyone local complain about the pricing, but I'll be sure to remind them, "Don't buy it then and stop whining about it!!", if they try to offer that opinion. Cause that's reasonable.

 

I hate paying those prices, but I always do because 90% of the time it's worth it!

 

it's the attitude I get from Jeppe about the price of his beers.

 

You're gonna have to expand on this theory. What exactly do you mean by human psychology doesn't really mesh with the idea that consumers should buy what they want to buy (based on whether they want the product and can afford it or not) and pass over what they don't want to buy?

Are you suggesting that human psychology is at odds with a concept as simple as making good choices?

On a certain level, I'm not sure I can disagree, given the abundance of bad choices I see humans make on a daily occurrence, but I'm not sure it's fair to call a seller "immoral" because someone else can't exercise even the most basic level of self-control. That same logic--that human psychology is at odds with consumers having the onus to not purchase "overpriced" goods--could be used to rationalize the government setting of prices so that the prices are supposedly at some objective standard of what is "fair".

How much over cost should a seller be allowed to price their product? Is it a dollar amount? A percentage? This is a huge part of the reason why in a (relatively) free market, we enable producers to set prices and consumers to choose to buy or not. Because the fairest way to find that balance between a "fair" amount of profit to the seller and a "fair" amount of value in return for the product to the buyer is to let each individual have the free will to make their choices and deal with the consequences.

 

ET's pricing has always been a bit on the higher side for 4pks/22oz in my area, but every time I've splurged for one, it has been well worth the price. Yet to have a bottle that I didn't enjoy or where I felt I didn't get my money's worth.

 

To me this whole discussion seems to boil down to people being upset about not being able to afford ET beers, because if it’s simply a matter of being upset about spending $15 and being disappointed, then the next time you are at your local bottle shop, move right along past the ET bottles and onto something else. There have been many times where I have seen a beer priced above what I can afford or am willing to pay, you know what I do when that happens, move 1 foot to my right or left and find something equally appealing, that sits more comfortably in my financial wheelhouse. What I choose not to do is lament what I cannot afford because that is a futile endeavor and a waste of energy. Will I ever be able to afford the highest priced beers without flinching as it gets scanned at the register, perhaps, perhaps not, if not, I am ok with that because there are so many other great brews out there that are more moderately priced.

People choose far too frequently to focus on trivial things instead of what’s really important. I decided a while back that I would enjoy what I have instead of focusing on what I do not.

 

It's overpriced for what they offer, for sure. And I am not afraid to drop cash on beers.

I find Evil Twin's offerings to generally be good, but not great, and their price points, compared to similar offerings in the marketplace, are definitely off-putting for me.

I've seen 10oz tulips of Nomader and Bikini Beer on beer menus for 12 dollars.

By contrast though, I'd pay whatever it costs for a IBB when I want one. And the $35 World's Worst Twin I picked up at Tørst..... I'm sure it's worth it

 

not only that, but "if you don't like the price, don't buy it *really is* the answer. if you keep buying it, you obviously like it enough at that price point and should just get over it.

you know? it's like "i feeeeeel that this price is too high," (then pays the price). evidently it's *not* too high, because you still bought it!

 

Evil Twin is not pricing 10oz tulips of beer that you're ordering from somewhere...

 

One of Jeppe's FB responses: "Fun fact of the day: a $19 six-pack is equal to a $5,80 bomber. How many people complain about a $5.80 bomber?"

Yeah, people think it's a steal and the best bargain ever, when they pay that much for a bomber of Hop Stoopid.

 

Well then why doesn't Evil Twin put out a $6 bomber then? Because all of their bombers I've seen have been at least $15.

This is why this logic does not work.

 

$2.50 per 16 ounce beer is certainly reasonable.

I think that for me it starts with my feeling that the quality if Evil Twin beer is overrated. I've tried 9 of their beers and have been under-whelmed by them all.

I'll gladly pay for exceptional beer - I just have yet to find a worthy ET beer.

 

Have you had any of these: Lil' B, Imperial Biscotti Break (and the variants), Imperial Doughnut Break, Even More Jesus (and the variants), Bozo Beer, I Love You With My Stout?

 

Nah... he only drinks top 20 beers all day.

 

Imperial Biscotti Break and I Love You With My Stout.

Both were good but I could easily think of about 20 or more Double Impy Stouts that are better.

 

Biscotti is a damn good beer.
Double Imperial Stouts? Is that like a quad stout? Where can I get one of those?

 

I think he's forgetting that bombers in general are always a rip off relative to six packs. That's part of what everyone expects when they buy a beer in that format. Just look at Sucks. $7 quart or $11 six pack. If Sucks was $0.21 an ounce in six pack it'd be a $15 six pack and it'd be the same shelf turd the quarts are.