Excessive Ads from BA?!

Help Discussion in 'BeerAdvocate Talk' started by williamDbar, Apr 7, 2019.

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  1. scream

    scream Initiate (0) Dec 6, 2014 Wisconsin
    In Memoriam

    The most offensive thing about this site is that they do not send me a free box of great beer once a month.

    Deal w the ads guys !

    Thumps up to Todd and the crew !
     
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  2. Todd

    Todd Founder (13,518) Aug 23, 1996 Finland
    STAFF Mod Team Society Pooh-Bah

    Sanitized? No. The title was changed from "BA Spamming?!" to "Excessive Ads from BA?!" for clarification. If you'd like to have a constructive discussion about the ads, let's do that. But c'mon.
     
  3. HopsAreDaMan

    HopsAreDaMan Initiate (0) Jul 28, 2015 Missouri

    Thanks for clarifying that. The choice to describe the thread topic as 'Excessive Ads' is more accurate than 'Spamming'. I have no idea where the judgment 'sanitized' comes from in regards to that minor and appropriate change.
     
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  4. FBarber

    FBarber Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,325) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
    Mod Team BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    Been on here for about three years and I almost never get emails from BA. I've gotten a few in the last couple weeks with the change over to the Society membership and the cessation of the magazine. I can't speak to those of you who aren't in the society and the may be getting a different array of emails than I do. That being said, this website isn't free even if you aren't the one paying for it. Someone is. For me, its a no-brainer. I pay for certain good online content that I use frequently and enjoy. BeerAdvocate is one of those sites. To the OP - if you don't want to pay for it? Don't. But if you're going to use a "free" website you can't also complain about the ads ... This isn't unique to the internet. Lots of free sites have way more ads than BA to help them pay for the "free" site.
     
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  5. deleted_user_950283

    deleted_user_950283 Initiate (0) Feb 25, 2015
    Trader

    For those complaining about thread sanitization and deleted posts, join us on the WBAYDN thread. Alll sorts of shenanigans on many levels.

    When I joined BA it was for the trading option. Extremely limited distribution in Montana and purchasing beer then was not an option. I’ve grown to fully appreciate this site, the community and the members. Joined the society to avoid the ad banners. I gladly drop the same amount of money annually that it takes to send one box via trade, or to purchase one bottle or four pack of a quality barrel aged stout or DIPA, to support what we do.

    I have an Untappd account to log beers. I pay for my Beer Advocate account to converse with friends. $20 is $20. :wink:
     
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  6. Snowcrash000

    Snowcrash000 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,041) Oct 4, 2017 Germany
    Mod Team Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    I critized the excessive adds on multiple occasions in other threads on this subforum and all of those posts got deleted. Because of this, I was actually surprised that this thread didn't get deleted as well and I commented as much. That post also got deleted.
     
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  7. Schmittymack

    Schmittymack Pooh-Bah (1,864) Sep 3, 2008 Colorado
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    I, for one, am missing the magazine. I'm not on here nearly as much anymore so I'm still debating whether to pony up more dollaros for more. I've lost $$ on All About Beer going away, too, so there's two magazines I now miss...and won't see a dime of my extended subscription to AAB refunded.
     
  8. Todd

    Todd Founder (13,518) Aug 23, 1996 Finland
    STAFF Mod Team Society Pooh-Bah

    Posting that you're surprised that this thread hasn't been deleted yet isn't helpful to the discussion.
     
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  9. Squire

    Squire Grand Pooh-Bah (4,385) Jul 16, 2015 Mississippi
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    Complaining about using a free site? Why not demand a refund as well.
     
  10. AZBeerDude72

    AZBeerDude72 Initiate (0) Jun 10, 2016 Arizona

    One idea I wanted to toss out and maybe a way to get folks to join is offering maybe another perk. @Todd what if you worked with one of your sponsors to maybe craft a unique beer glass for Society Members only as part of joining? Maybe someone like DFH or another could do up a cool glass with nice art that would be a nice limited item and then as part of membership you get the glass. Just an idea but maybe folks would enjoy one off items each year to keep folks interested in joining. I know a lot of online sites offer membership perks like this, just an idea to maybe get people to join and they land a cool limited item etc.

    Food for thought rather than all the arguing about $20, maybe others could toss out ideas also, what would entice you guys to join then, what perk or item would sway you to toss in a few bucks.
    Cheers.
     
  11. FBarber

    FBarber Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,325) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
    Mod Team BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    I'm such a sucker for glassware - Id totally love that. Especially if it was like a nice glass with gold accent/rim and said the society name or whatever. Thats a great idea.
     
  12. AZBeerDude72

    AZBeerDude72 Initiate (0) Jun 10, 2016 Arizona

    I agree. How cool would it be as part of memebership you get a unique item each year. I understand maybe some additional cost but I know I would pony up a few bucks more to cover it. Then each year you land a nice one off item no one else can get and all. Just an idea, keeps folks interested and then they get something they can use etc. Figured rather than toss out all the bad lets get people to list out what they want then, use the forum to generate ideas and move ahead.
    Cheers
     
  13. HopsAreDaMan

    HopsAreDaMan Initiate (0) Jul 28, 2015 Missouri

    Love it. I'd be willing to kick in a few extra bucks to get a glass, esp. a unique one from BeerAdvocate. Shipping could make that quite a bit more pricey, though, and problematic from them, as BA doesn't box up or ship anything.

    What if we earned credit at some online retailer that ships beer glasses?
     
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  14. Snowcrash000

    Snowcrash000 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,041) Oct 4, 2017 Germany
    Mod Team Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    I think this is great idea in principle, however it also touches on another reason why I'm not jumping to join the society. Would this glassware be available to people in Europe or would the higher shipping costs prohibit this? Europeans are already excluded from some of the best Society perks and the site generally remains very US-centric and seems to have little interest in attracting more European members.

    I really don't mean to sound negative all the time, I appreciate the site a lot for a lot of reasons, but there are also a lot of things that could be improved in my opinion.

    While we're at it posting suggestions, one thing that would get me to join the society in a heartbeat would be a tool that allows you to extract your reviews to an external file. This is something that I suggested previously already but, unfortunately, also got deleted.

    How about custom user titles? Should be easy to implement and everyone likes to customize their account a little.
     
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  15. HopsAreDaMan

    HopsAreDaMan Initiate (0) Jul 28, 2015 Missouri

    Great points.

    Perhaps starting a new thread, with some title like, What would motivate you to become a society member? Then solicit ideas at the $20 level, the $35 level, etc. Again, similar to the ideas for joining your local NPR station.

    I'm heading out for the day, or I would start some thread along those lines.
     
  16. Todd

    Todd Founder (13,518) Aug 23, 1996 Finland
    STAFF Mod Team Society Pooh-Bah

    I was going to mention this, but didn't want to come across as confrontational. So...to keep the positive vibes going, we're listening and I welcome your ideas on how we can improve things.
     
  17. CannedWaggoneer

    CannedWaggoneer Crusader (499) May 1, 2017 Ohio

    It's relevant to his claim that he tried to voice his opinions about the ads on this site and was met with censorship. So in an indirect way yes, it is part of this discussion.
     
  18. Todd

    Todd Founder (13,518) Aug 23, 1996 Finland
    STAFF Mod Team Society Pooh-Bah

    There's constructive criticism and then there's always being negative, which we've kind of just established. And we've moved on...

    I also welcome your constructive criticism and ideas.
     
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  19. AZBeerDude72

    AZBeerDude72 Initiate (0) Jun 10, 2016 Arizona

    The best idea may be for Ba to speak with their sponsors who already have stores setup online and maybe they can work out shipping/costs. Member pays for membership, you get a code sent to you, then you go to sponsors site, enter code and gain access to membership perk item. I know there are logistics to work out but hey, maybe its a way to drive revenue and attract new people who would jump in for stuff like this.
    Cheers
     
  20. Dragginballs76

    Dragginballs76 Initiate (0) Nov 13, 2015 South Carolina
    Trader

    I like that idea and at the bare minimum it would get a bit more out of us who are already members. I would pay a little more for something like that.
     
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