Expanding My Palate

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Kyrojack, Dec 5, 2012.

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  1. Kyrojack

    Kyrojack Initiate (0) Oct 9, 2012 Indiana

    I'm relatively new to the craft beer world. I just turned 21 about a year and a half ago, and I don't know much about craft beer but I have been researching for the last month or so. I have noticed that I seem to like German Pilsners, Witbiers, and Wheat Ales. I have tried some darker beers, but can't really get into them (the roasty flavor in specific). I was wondering if there is a beer that I could drink that could prepare my senses for the darker beers and sort of "bridge" me over to that side and get away from the lighter beers. Any suggestions for me? I live in the Great Lakes area if that helps.

    Thanks for your input.
     
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  2. Zach136

    Zach136 Initiate (0) Jun 17, 2012 Georgia

    I was in the same boat, what did it for me was trying great examples of the styles.

    Founders Porter, Bell's Expedition Stout, Brooklyn Black Chocolate Stout, Founder's Breakfast Stout, are all fantastic and should be pretty easy to get.
     
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  3. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    Try a great Munich Dunkel Like Ayinger Altbairisch- it's dark and malty without the roasty character.:
    http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/39/134

    Once you start getting into something like that then move on to Schwartzbiers like Kostritzer- those are mildly roasty.
     
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  4. tmm313

    tmm313 Initiate (0) Nov 6, 2011 Georgia

    Flying Dog "Pearl Necklace" was my bridge. Bell's Porter and Left Hand Black Jack Porter would probably help, too.
     
  5. PangaeaBeerFood

    PangaeaBeerFood Initiate (0) Nov 30, 2008 New York

    When people want to explore dark beer, then instantly jump for Stouts, which are definitionally the darkest, heaviest, roastiest, etc. It's the equivalent of giving someone their first chili pepper and making it a habanero. Ease yourself in to dark beers. Start with sweeter, smoother styles of dark beer, Belgian Dubbels, English-style Porters, and sooner or later, you'll be guzzling back Stouts like whoa.

    Here are a few introductory dark beers to try:

    Sam Adams Black Lager
    Sam Smiths Taddy Porter
    Weihenstephaner Hefeweissbier Dunkel
    Ommegang Dubbel
    Schneider Aventinus
    Left Hand Nitro Milk Stout

    There are a million others, though.
     
  6. mattbk

    mattbk Savant (1,111) Dec 12, 2011 New York

    If you live in the Great Lakes area: try Great Lakes Edmund Fitzgerald Porter. It's easy drinking and one of the best examples of the style you can find anywhere.
     
  7. Orca

    Orca Grand Pooh-Bah (4,710) Sep 18, 2010 Washington
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    Based on what you like, here are a few good "bridge" beers you should try:
    Ayinger Celebrator
    Ayinger Ur-Weisse
    Weihenstephaner Korbinian
    Weihenstephaner Hefeweissbier Dunkel
    Rochefort 8
    Rochefort 10

    You can gradually move into the darker, roastier porters, stouts etc. if you want.
     
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  8. sportscrazed2

    sportscrazed2 Pooh-Bah (2,360) Mar 29, 2010 American Samoa
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    Just try a bunch of different styles. There is bound to be something you like. And if you find one your particularly like try as many from that style as you can.
     
  9. mjshearer1

    mjshearer1 Initiate (0) Dec 16, 2011 Michigan

    My gateway stouts were Guinness and Young's Double Chocolate. Also, milk stouts tend to be more subdued as opposed to punching-you-in-the-face-with-roasted-malt-imperial-stouts. Good examples of this would Left Hand's Milk Stout or Southern Tier's 2X Stout.
     
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  10. sportscrazed2

    sportscrazed2 Pooh-Bah (2,360) Mar 29, 2010 American Samoa
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    Also try getting into good coffee if you haven't already. I have found that my recent interest in making high quality coffee and drinking it black has really made me enjoy porters and stouts much more.
     
  11. herrburgess

    herrburgess Grand Pooh-Bah (3,077) Nov 4, 2009 South Carolina
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    This is your best answer. Most if not all U.S. craft brewed dark beers use roasted or chocolate malts, which can be pretty harsh to the uninitiated (and the experienced!) palate. Authentic German Dunkels like Ayinger's achieve their darkness primarily from the use of Munich malts and decoction mashing, which will produce a more rounded, less harsh, toasty flavor (lagering helps smooth things out as well). If, after trying some of these toasty tasting beers, you do feel you have "graduated" to the more roasty flavors, then a beer like Koestritzer will be perfect, as it's both very roasty yet immensely drinkable...for these reasons some people even call it a "black pilsner." Prost!
     
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  12. mychalg9

    mychalg9 Pooh-Bah (2,123) Apr 8, 2010 Illinois
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    One that I had early on that made me say "wow" was Dogfish Head Indian Brown Ale. I think Goose Island Mild Winter is a decent choice too, as it is "dark" but is very drinkable and not really roasty. But really you just have to keep trying them until you find one you like, or worse, find out you dont like anything dark, although I find the latter to be highly improbable.
     
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  13. HANGOVER

    HANGOVER Initiate (0) Nov 23, 2012

    I would get a Great Lakes Brewing Company sampler pack, it contains a porter, gold lager, amber lager and pale ale all decent beers that are great for transitioning from light lagers. That and if you live in the great lakes it is a local brewery so if you like some of their beers you should be able to get several styles from this brewery.
     
  14. tjensen3618

    tjensen3618 Maven (1,391) Mar 23, 2008 California

    Great Lakes Edmund Fitzgerald, the roasty bitter and hoppy bitter flavors can take some time to get used to until you really start appreciating them and being able to taste past the roast.
     
  15. FosterJM

    FosterJM Initiate (0) Nov 16, 2009 California

    I knew I shouldve said something earlier.

    I think these are all great additions he should try. They are the german/belgian influence but he can pick out some of the lighter beer flavors. He could also try the Weienstephaner Hefeweiss-Dark. Might be a good "bridge"

    Cheers!
     
  16. jRocco2021

    jRocco2021 Savant (1,083) Mar 13, 2010 Wisconsin

    http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/72/224 this is a German wheat dopplebock. It's dark but its similar to that styles you mentioned. I believe it would be a good place to start. That along with a lot of what other people are saying.
     
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  17. Resuin

    Resuin Pooh-Bah (2,921) Jun 18, 2012 Massachusetts
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    I recommend some Belgian Strong Ales and Dubbels.

    Some I enjoy:

    -Chimay Red
    -Rochefort 6, 8 & 10
    -Westmalle Dubbel
    -Unibroue La Terrible
     
  18. Rfunk

    Rfunk Initiate (0) Nov 28, 2012 California

    Just try beers. You may never like darker beers...it's just a thing that develops over time. For me, I explored the IPA world so much I got bored of it and decided to branch out. Porters, stouts, and strong ales were my next stop. And now I am thoroughly enjoying barrel aged beers.
     
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  19. flayedandskinned

    flayedandskinned Initiate (0) Jan 1, 2011 California

    Just try as many different styles as you can. I predict with in a year you will be a hop head like most of us. For darker german beers check out Aventinus and Celebrator. Both are amazing doppelbocks.
     
  20. sukwonee

    sukwonee Initiate (0) Dec 13, 2011 Washington

    Samuel Smith's Oatmeal Stout, Ayinger Celebrator, Rochefort, etc.
     
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