Experience with A01 Imperial Yeast House

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by NorCalKid, Apr 8, 2019.

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  1. NorCalKid

    NorCalKid Initiate (0) Jan 10, 2018 California

    Looking for anyone’s experience and advice using said yeast.

    I’ve used WLP007 and really liked the results I got. 007 is suppose to be similar or the same strain. However Imperial lists A01’s attenuation somewhat lower around 73-75% and WLP007 lists its maximum higher, reaching up to 80%. But does A01 have a closer resemblance to Safale 04 which lists attenuation around the same, 72-75%?

    There are multiple factors when it comes to a yeasts performance. But reading into it I’m just curious if A01 is its own strain alone.

    Mashing schedules, grain bill, fermentation temps, pitching rates, etc. would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
     
  2. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I can't say exactly what strain Imperial A01 is, but I would recommend not putting too much faith (or any, really) in the published attenuation ranges as a method to identify the strain. Every strain can attenuate both more and less than whatever numbers the yeast vendor puts on it. Fermentability of the wort is always key. (As you said...multiple factors.)
     
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  3. NorCalKid

    NorCalKid Initiate (0) Jan 10, 2018 California

    Ya very true. I just used their Barbarian strain and got a higher attenuation then what was labeled, brewing my standard NEIPA. It’s a little frustrating but not that big of deal.

    I guess more of it’s fermentation qualities is what I’m looking for. Esters and mouthfeel.
     
  4. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    When a yeast vendor (e.g., White Labs) lists an attenuation range for a given yeast strain that is based upon a standard wort. In this manner you can compare and contrast the attenuation performance of the various yeast products from that specific yeast vendor.

    Comparing attenuation numbers between vendors can be tricky since they may not be using the same standard wort for obtaining their attenuation values. You really should just compare within a single vendor’s product line.

    What attenuation you achieve in your homebrew batch will depend on the fermentability of the wort you produced which needless to say will be different from a given yeast vendor’s standard wort.

    Cheers!
     
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  5. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    White Labs lists 70-80 for WLP007. If they have a "standard wort," they must be completely incompetent at producing it or at measuring gravity.
     
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  6. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Or yeast will provide varying fermentation performance over multiple batches?
     
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  7. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Have you ever, in all your years of brewing, made the same recipe multiple times and had a range of 10 percentage points between the lowest and highest attenuation?
     
  8. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Below is discussion on how to utilize yeast vendor published attenuation values for yeast selection via White Labs:

    “Most manufactures of brewers yeast list the attenuation ranges of their yeast strains. This can be very useful to a brewer in matching a yeast strain to a beer style. An example would be a brewer wishing to make an American-style Pale Ale. A yeast strain should be selected that will produce a dry finish, and allow for hop flavors to come through. A good choice would be a neutral yeast with an attenuation of 70-80%. If a brewer wants to make an English style mild ale, a yeast strain that does not attenuate as much would be desired. An attenuation range of 65-70% would be more appropriate. Would a yeast strain that attenuates to 80% taste bad in an English style mild ale? No, but the beer would not taste true to style.”

    https://www.whitelabs.com/resources/attenuation-and-flocculation

    Cheers!

    P.S. Also some discussion about White Labs and standard wort: “Erik Fowler: …there is a standard wort recipe used to calculate attenuation.”
     
  9. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Where is this discussion?
     
  10. frozyn

    frozyn Maven (1,435) May 16, 2015 New York
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    Brewed with Omega's French Saison yeast, which claims 80-90%, and after measuring FG this weekend I ended up with 94.5% attenuation. Took the ABV a full percentage point up from the recipe prediction. I know it's diastaticus and that can lead to some fun fermentations, but just another data point that the suggested range is not always a great indicator.

    @NorCalKid, no experience with A01. Sorry!
     
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  11. NorCalKid

    NorCalKid Initiate (0) Jan 10, 2018 California

    If it helps anyone

    5 1/2 gal batch
    92.3% 2-row
    5.8% White Wheat
    1.9% Carahell
    Mash~ 153*f
    Fermented ~ 68*f
    2 pks A01 (no starter) was just a couple weeks old
    OG/1059 FG/1015
    Apparent Attenuation~ 74%

    Amarillo, Strata, Galaxy
    Nice fruity esters, Zebra bubble gum and runts candy. Clean and a little dry. Just kegged though. I’ll post on a different thread when matured.
     
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