Extra Special Bitters.

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  1. chris826

    chris826 Savant (1,117) Sep 24, 2014 Mississippi

    Southern Prohibition's Jack the Sipper is a good one of you are ever down in MS
     
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  2. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    I'm a fan of the style. But, unlike the OP, I tend to prefer the maltier examples of the style. Too many, especially American, versions tend to be IPA-lite.
     
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  3. BowWowWowYippyYoIPA

    BowWowWowYippyYoIPA Initiate (0) Dec 30, 2014 California

    I'm not too familiar with the style, but I recently had Fuller's ESB for the first time. To me it smelled and tasted exactly like apples, kept going back to try to pick up other flavor and absolutely could not pick anything else out besides the taste of unfiltered apple juice, you could have told me it was a cider and I would have believed you. From what I've read this doesn't seem indicative of the style, other than the marmalade fruitiness described on the label. To me it wasn't enjoyable at all, but won't stop me from trying other ESBs. (bottle date was fine by the way).

    Has anyone else had this experience with ESBs? Are they an acquired taste? I used to not be able to pull out the more subtle flavors of IPAs, so maybe I just need a palate shift.
     
  4. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    The beer on cask in London is excellent, in the bottle in the US is not.
     
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  5. RobertColianni

    RobertColianni Pooh-Bah (1,789) Nov 4, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    Currently have seven ESBs at Hawthorne's. Always a priority of mine to have solid examples from each style. Sawtooth Nitro is one of the best you'll ever have, but it's leaps and bounds behind Bombardier which is on at The Khyber, right now. As previously mentioned, Yards ESA, Brawler, and Philly Pale are constantly floating around the city. Chester Co. Bitter is always a solid local option as well.
     
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  6. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Well this won't do much good in finding them here in the US, but my fav beer when visiting the UK is either a local bitter on cask or an ESB on cask, depending on how long I'll be sitting around chatting and sipping beer. (Wish it was easier to find Cask beers in the US. There are some properly cared for cask beers but to few and far between.)

    But of those I've had in the US I have to give the nod to the Climax Brewing (New Jersey) ESB and the Heavy Seas Winter Storm, throwing in some recognition for the Theakston's XB which may be more widely available than either the Climax or the Heavy Seas. For me Fullers is OK but bottling it is not the best way to to go.
     
  7. Jacobier10

    Jacobier10 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,102) Feb 23, 2004 New Jersey
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    Fuller's ESB was one of the first beers I fell in love with. Truly an awesome beer. Locally, I really enjoy Climax ESB, but I have a hard time finding it even in NJ.
     
  8. CheapHysterics

    CheapHysterics Initiate (0) Apr 1, 2009 Pennsylvania

    Fuller's is just phenomenal. Some good US ones are Anderson Valley's and Victory's.

    I see you're from PA so you should also check out Stoudt's Scarlet Lady (not anywhere as good as Fuller's but still good - I like it more than Yard's ESA) and Helltown's Extra Sinful Bitter, which is delicious but probably hard to find outside of SW PA.
     
  9. SnifterLifter

    SnifterLifter Initiate (0) Nov 9, 2013 New York

    Im not sure I would classify Hobgoblin as a bitter. Its sort of a weird beer to classify but I think its closer to a Brown Ale than a bitter. Maybe halfway between the two. I dont know.
     
  10. SnifterLifter

    SnifterLifter Initiate (0) Nov 9, 2013 New York

    ESBs are wonderful and we need more of them. That is all.
     
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  11. Bonsall_Phil

    Bonsall_Phil Initiate (0) Mar 21, 2014 California

    I like Well's Bombardier a lot, ESB was my preferred beer years ago and this post reminds me that I have forgotten my roots and need to grab a few.
     
  12. KansasBeerLover

    KansasBeerLover Initiate (0) Feb 16, 2009 Kansas

    My first ESB was Fuller's. And I started trying all I could find.
    My list:

    Belk’s ESB Anderson Valley
    14ers ESB Avery
    LunaSea Empyrean
    Fuller's ESB Fuller
    25th Anniv. Ale Goose Island
    Harvest Ale Goose Island
    XX Bitch Creek Grand Teton
    HotShot ESB Great Divide
    Saranac ESB High Falls
    Sawtooth Ale Left Hand
    Sawtooth Nitro Left Hand
    2 Below Winter Ale New Belgium
    ESB Redhook
    Iron Maiden Trooper Robinsons
    ESB (Early Spring Beer) Sierra Nevada
    ESB Special Ale SKA
    Oasis Tallgrass


    The only disappointments were Empyrean LunaSea and Robinsons Iron Maiden. They were good, but not great.
     
  13. HeislerGold

    HeislerGold Zealot (577) Oct 19, 2013 Michigan

    Love ESBs. Fuller's is always solid and I was crushed when Goose Island discontinued their Harvest Ale. That was an excellent ESB. I make sure to pick up Short's Autumn Ale every fall because that is a favorite of mine as well.

    I was happy to see a year or so ago that Arcadia Ales added an ESB to their year-round lineup called Thunder Trail ESB but it was a disappointment. Too many off flavors in that beer.
     
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  14. muddyh2oblues

    muddyh2oblues Initiate (0) Mar 13, 2010 Illinois

    I've had 6 ESB's so far, not a style that is abundantly available around here. And sadly my favorite of the six, Tallgrass Oasis, is no longer brewed. But yes, I do enjoy a bitter now and then, when I can get one. Schlafly Winter ESB is quite good also, as is Southern Tier Harvest. But they are hit and miss each year in my area.
     
  15. RockAZ

    RockAZ Pundit (983) Jan 6, 2009 Arizona

    Only had Fullers ESB on cask once, (Philly) don't know how fresh it was but I liked it a lot. Their bottles are a miss most of the time, but I do buy them occasionally when they look fresh. Recently a few brewers in town have had a go at making ESB to some small success, at least the "biscuty" taste was there. Ska makes a good one,... Like someone said up thread, most American ESB's are watery IPA's with a different yeast.
     
  16. Hoppsbabo

    Hoppsbabo Pooh-Bah (2,053) Jan 29, 2012 England
    Pooh-Bah

    Fullers ESB on cask is something else.
     
  17. TheBungyo

    TheBungyo Pooh-Bah (2,037) Dec 1, 2004 Washington
    Pooh-Bah

    Amen.

    I love the traditional examples of this style but the ones that take the word "bitter" literally frustrate me. Too many of these attempts miss the mark.
     
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  18. Pantalones

    Pantalones Initiate (0) Nov 14, 2014 Virginia

    Only one I've had so far was 2 Below from the New Belgium variety pack I picked up back in November, but I enjoyed that one. I'd like to try other examples of the style at some point if 2 Below is anything to go by.

    I don't see them in stores very often, though... I think the only one I've seen is Redhook's ESB, and only as part of their variety packs rather than in six-packs on its own. I do know that one makes a pretty tasty beer batter for fried fish (thanks to Hardee's) but so far have not had the opportunity to try it in actual beer form. Looking over the list of beers on the site, I see that Foster's Ale also apparently is in the ESB category too, and I've seen that in the jumbo-sized cans. That's all I've seen in grocery stores and such, though... guess I might have to seek out an actual beer store sometime if I want to try more in this style.
     
  19. marquis

    marquis Pooh-Bah (2,313) Nov 20, 2005 England
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    You'll only find Fuller's from these shores. The term ESB is regarded as a Fuller's trade mark (they tried to register it but it was deemed "too generic") ESB isn't a style at all, simply a bitter (aka Pale Ale) at the stronger end of the scale. Gales HSB is worth seeking out.
    Many bottled bitters are of greater strength that their cask equivalents to try to counteract the dumbing down of cask ale by bottling it.So a beer regarded as an ESB in the US would be an ordinary bitter in the UK.Bombardier has already been mentioned; it's 4.3% ABV on cask but 5.2% in bottle.
     
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  20. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    Not to be snarky, but Honkers is considered a(n Ordinary) Bitter, not an Extra Special Bitter -- though it's still pretty special.
     
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