Extract wheat beer recipe queston

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  1. corbmoster

    corbmoster Pundit (848) Dec 15, 2014 Texas
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    I think my next batch will be a wheat beer. So far this summer I've been turning out Saisons, and haven't made a wheat beer yet, ever actually. This should be remedied. After looking through some previous conversations on BA I was going to go with a simple recipe:

    6# Wheat DME
    0.5# of light DME* (could I use pils, or extra light DME since I already have that, or no?)
    1 Oz noble hops (I'm thinking Saaz. Or go with stronger Halltertau?)
    Wyeast 3638, or Safale WB-06 as a backup if 3638 is not available.

    *I wanted to use honey malt instead of light DME after hearing people say it imparted honey flavor. But I don't think it is available as extract.

    So originally I wanted to brew this with fruit added in secondary, but should I just make this as is? I was thinking apricot and a little mixed berries would have been awesome. Normally I would do a split batch probably One with fruit, and one without. But I won't have any bottles available and will need to keg.
     
  2. ssam

    ssam Pundit (997) Dec 2, 2008 California

    That recipe looks perfectly fine, and any of those choices of extract are fine too. You can even just use wheat dme.

    I made an apricot wheat one summer that was awesome. I think I used five pounds quartered and frozen.
     
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  3. corbmoster

    corbmoster Pundit (848) Dec 15, 2014 Texas
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    I can't find frozen apricot :slight_frown: I was thinking to chop fresh apricot, boil and cool it and use in secondary with frozen mixed berries.
     
  4. scottakelly

    scottakelly Maven (1,487) May 9, 2007 Ohio

    I dont see the point of the light dme. Wheat dme has about the right proportion of wheat to barley malt needed anyway.

    If you haven't done a wheat beer before, probably best to master the base recipe first
     
  5. corbmoster

    corbmoster Pundit (848) Dec 15, 2014 Texas
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    The page I had seen had 2 recipes that were almost identical. The first was exactly what I posted above, except it did not have the extra half pound of DME. The second recipe had the extra half pound and steeped specialty grains. The second had higher gravity and that's always a good thing :wink:
     
  6. Beerswimmer

    Beerswimmer Initiate (0) Mar 4, 2013 Texas

    Looks good. Wheat DME beers are almost like cheating, soooo easy and the results will surprise you!
     
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  7. scotti561

    scotti561 Initiate (0) Feb 2, 2013 Florida
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    I did a mango/habanero wheat beer last summer and doing it again this summer. My friends and I all really enjoyed it and we haven't really had anything like it. I didn't get enough heat off the habanero last year so I will be adding less mangos and more habanero to this years batch.
     
  8. billandsuz

    billandsuz Pooh-Bah (2,097) Sep 1, 2004 New York
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    Fine recipe. I'll second and third the removal of light DME. You can use 6, 7 or 8 pounds of Wheat DME.

    Hallertau is more traditional than Saaz. I personally would use Hallertau, then perhaps German Tettnang, maybe Liberty. Saaz is fine as well, just not the traditional hop for wheat beer.

    Hold the fruit for now. A Wheat based DME is really a great summertime brew. I have a hard time justifying all grain wheat brews actually because the simple DME version is solid. If you think the apricot is worth it then go right ahead.

    Lastly, pay attention to your fermentation temps. If you get the yeast where it needs to be the beer will be very good.
    Cheers.
     
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  9. corbmoster

    corbmoster Pundit (848) Dec 15, 2014 Texas
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    Thanks for the infos @billandsuz Ferm temps was what I was going to look at next. Would it be standard ale temps about mid 60's, or higher temps like a saison of upper 70's?

    60 min additions on the hops?
     
  10. corbmoster

    corbmoster Pundit (848) Dec 15, 2014 Texas
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    I've been doing some reading and video watching. It seems some people opt to add half the DME pre-boil, and the other half of DME with 10 minutes left in the boil. What's up with that? And should I do that?
     
  11. CurtFromHershey

    CurtFromHershey Initiate (0) Oct 4, 2012 Minnesota

    Mid 60's is generally good for suppressing esters. If you're looking to impart yeast character in an ale strain, you probably want to go a bit higher in just about every style other than kolsch and alt.

    Some people will hold part or most of the DME until late in the boil to 1) increase hop utilization due to lower wort density and/or 2) reduce wort darkening.

    Since DMS is not a real concern for extract brewing, there are not many significant benefits to a full length boil aside from convenience. Obvious exception for extended boils intended to induce various chemical reactions.
     
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  12. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    I'm not a fan of this particular dry yeast, wb6, and recommend the wyeast product. I found the wb6 to be overly clovey, but I've only used it once and it is just one person's opinion. As stated earlier, you can make great wheat beers with just dme. I also think there is no reason to go out of your way with light dme. wheat dme is typically 50% wheat, 50% barley based. All you are doing is shifting the percentage a bit. You are right that you cannot get honey malt as an extract, but you could do a minimash with half a pound of 2row and half a pound of honey malt. I personally don't think honey malt tasted like honey, but if you are looking for honey, no reason that you couldn't add some
     
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  13. corbmoster

    corbmoster Pundit (848) Dec 15, 2014 Texas
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    Thanks guys. Ya I'm going to follow all the advice of just using only wheat DME. I do like the flavors in good wheat ales so I'll ferment a bit higher then. Maybe pitch at 68 and let it free rise to say, 72?
     
  14. ssam

    ssam Pundit (997) Dec 2, 2008 California

    Sorry I'm late, but to clarify, I washed and quartered fresh apricots, then I froze them. I didn't go out and buy frozen apricots. I personally wouldn't boil them because that might remove some of the flavor.
     
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  15. corbmoster

    corbmoster Pundit (848) Dec 15, 2014 Texas
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    Thanks for clearing that up.

    I have not made a wheat beer yet. I decided to make a stout now, to give it time to age. I'll probably make a wheat beer next. It's not like it won't be in the freaking 90's into mid October here... :rolling_eyes:
     
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