Extract

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  1. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    Amber malt extract. Who uses it? Where and why? Lots of hate here and I've never used it.
     
  2. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I used it once, in my second ever batch. I was building my own recipe after brewing a kit for my first batch. The beer (a belgian pale) came out surprisingly well, but really by dumb luck. The problem with amber and darker extracts is that you don't know what's in them. So how can you build a recipe with them and know what to expect? IMO it would take some trial and error to get to the point where you know what the particular extract does (flavor, body, fermentability, etc) treated as a "single" ingredient.
     
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  3. CurtFromHershey

    CurtFromHershey Initiate (0) Oct 4, 2012 Minnesota

    I added 1# to a Motts AJ cider in place of simple sugars in hopes of adding a bit of body and caramel flavor. The end product is tasty, although I couldn't tell you what exactly the amber DME contributed.
     
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  4. premierpro

    premierpro Savant (1,060) Mar 21, 2009 Michigan

    When I was extract brewing I used it quite a bit. I have no hate for it. I made a lot of tasty beers using it. I once made a pale ale using 50% extra light and 50# amber DME. Was an excellent drinker!
     
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  5. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    I'm lazy, so I'm exclusively an extract user, but I can recall using amber only once over thirty-some batches. There must not be many recipes that I want to brew that use that ingredient. I have no hate for it; if it's listed in a recipe, I'll use it again.
     
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  6. ronobvious2

    ronobvious2 Initiate (0) Aug 24, 2010 Tennessee

  7. ncstateplaya

    ncstateplaya Maven (1,269) Nov 8, 2008 North Carolina

    About the only time I use it is when it's pre-packaged in a kit. Otherwise, I use light/golden (depending on what's in stock) and get my color from steeping specialty grains. I've read many times where people are discussing impurities and off flavors resulting from amber/darker extracts. My 2₵
     
  8. ncstateplaya

    ncstateplaya Maven (1,269) Nov 8, 2008 North Carolina

    ronobvious...have you brewed this kit before or is it your first?
     
  9. ronobvious2

    ronobvious2 Initiate (0) Aug 24, 2010 Tennessee

    If you just use steeping grains you're still going to get the flavor, aren't you?

    First time for this kit. Probably has another 3 weeks or so.
     
  10. StevensBrewing

    StevensBrewing Initiate (0) Oct 13, 2014 Pennsylvania

    I just used it in a batch of Scottish Ale, it's still in secondary so I haven't tried it yet. I've had Scottish Ale before, if it was from the same kit, it was a pretty good beer.
     
  11. ncstateplaya

    ncstateplaya Maven (1,269) Nov 8, 2008 North Carolina

    You'd still get some flavors, depending on the specialty grain you are using. I'm not claiming to be an expert, but I have made plenty of amber to brown ales using light extract and specialty grains. I can't compare how they'd taste if I used solely amber extract.

    Here is an article from BYO that addresses color versus flavor.
    https://byo.com/stories/issue/item/487-control-beer-color-tips-from-the-pros

    Nice, I'd like to hear how it turns out.
     
  12. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Grand Pooh-Bah (3,452) May 21, 2010 Texas
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    I have no problem with it, used it multiple times and always liked the results. Just don't treat it like extra light and you'll be fine.
     
  13. DrMindbender

    DrMindbender Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2014 South Carolina

    I used to use Amber DME often for my IPA's to give them a little more complexity and darker color, but after I brewed a DIPA with only amber, and it came out way too funky (in a bad way) compared to usual. I quit using Amber DME and went to Light/Golden DME as my main fermentable and use more specialty grains to get the desired taste and color I'm looking for. After switching, I have noticed a marked difference in taste and friends like my beers better now, even though they didnt know about my switch. Now I only use Light DME for most recipes I make and sometimes a small amount of Dark DME in my stouts and porters for some complexity.
     
  14. Applecrew135

    Applecrew135 Crusader (431) Jul 18, 2012 Pennsylvania

    I've used Amber DME in a couple of experimental single-hop one-gallon batches. I added some table sugar to dry it out a little to make an IPA and was pretty happy with the results. I'll be doing it again as I continue playing with hops. I normally do larger all-grain batches, but wanted something quick and dirty for these one-gallon batches. I was able to knock out a couple of these in an easy evening.

    Very drinkable and surprisingly good. I really think a little table sugar made all the difference in the world.
     
  15. machalel

    machalel Initiate (0) Jan 19, 2012 Australia

    Have used it a couple of times when I started brewing. All of these turned out below average, however, I'm cogniscant that thsi is correlation rather than causation (and 95% sure that it's more to do with the fact that there were my first few brews!).
     
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