Extras Etiquette

Discussion in 'Trade Talk' started by CSO, Apr 26, 2014.

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  1. CSO

    CSO Savant (1,134) Jan 31, 2014 Illinois
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    Hi All.

    Odd question, but if someone on the first trade threw in a 4 year old DIPA as an extra, but everything else about the trade was fine, would it be out of line to extra that same beer back on a subsequent trade?
     
  2. HighLowJack

    HighLowJack Savant (1,230) Jun 5, 2013 Massachusetts
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    "re-gifting" an extra to someone else is 100% fine. I do this all the time for styles I don't happen to love.

    however if it's a beer you were embarrassed to receive why would you give it to someone else? IOW, however you feel about your current trade partner is the same as someone else is going to feel about you if you give them this old beer.
     
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  3. CSO

    CSO Savant (1,134) Jan 31, 2014 Illinois
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    I would be sending this beer back to the same person I received it from, just on a new trade. That's the question: would it be perceived as an asshole move?
     
  4. Kurmaraja

    Kurmaraja Initiate (0) May 21, 2013 California
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    Do you mean passive aggressively sending the same beer BACK to the person that sent it to you? Yeah, I think that would be out of line. I think the right thing to do would be to man up and tell them that sending 4 year old IPAs as extras is like sending a moldy sandwich. Unless it's a 4 year old 120 min IPA in which case you should enjoy it.
     
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  5. Kurmaraja

    Kurmaraja Initiate (0) May 21, 2013 California
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    Yes.
     
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  6. HeadyTheElder

    HeadyTheElder Maven (1,276) Nov 3, 2012 Louisiana
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    Which DIPA is it?
     
  7. HighLowJack

    HighLowJack Savant (1,230) Jun 5, 2013 Massachusetts
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    I mean, it doesn't matter what the extra is, sending it back to the person you got it from would be a very weird thing to do
     
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  8. CSO

    CSO Savant (1,134) Jan 31, 2014 Illinois
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    It was my 2nd or 3rd trade, so I didn't know the protocol. It was a 2011 Double Jack. Sending it back would be more of a joke in my opinion, but again, that's why I'm asking the question.
     
  9. 4DAloveofSTOUT

    4DAloveofSTOUT Grand Pooh-Bah (4,064) Nov 28, 2008 Illinois
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    Yes. Just drain pour that beer and forget about it!
     
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  10. CSO

    CSO Savant (1,134) Jan 31, 2014 Illinois
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    Cool. I will do my usual and send extras I think they will enjoy.

    Thanks everyone for the feedback.
     
  11. tommyz

    tommyz Initiate (0) May 28, 2007 Michigan

    If the person who threw in a 4 year old IPA is a new trader, the nice thing to do is to mention that its not cool to send it and explain why...Sending it back is a total dick move imo...Also, why not try it? who knows, maybe you will like it, maybe not...But I have had a few DIPAS that have been pretty darn good with age...
     
  12. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Just pour it, could be whoever traded it didn't know it was dated, didn't know DIPA's don't age, I wouldn't assume anything. Xtras are Xtras, I would let it go.
     
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  13. tommyz

    tommyz Initiate (0) May 28, 2007 Michigan

    not entirely true
     
  14. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    It would be an assumption for an xtra. It's not like he was trading DJ said it was fresh and it's old. I know BA's who age big DIPA's, Hopslam etc, out of curiosity, like the malt profile as the hops fade. I would assume most know IPA's don't age well, but to assume everyone does may not be the case. Besides it's still an extra, he didn't have to send any.
     
  15. tommyz

    tommyz Initiate (0) May 28, 2007 Michigan

    No doubt, but Double Crooked tree is really good aged imo...With that said, id never send it as an extra..
     
  16. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    I wouldn't either, I only trade fresh Hoppy stuff, and expect the same back. I still see some trades ISO Abrasive and it could be from Nov 2013 if it flips.
     
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  17. evilcatfish

    evilcatfish Pooh-Bah (2,116) May 11, 2012 Missouri
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    Send me that Double Jack as I'd like to see how it tastes now. I know it won't have a lot of the fresher hop qualities but It is still drinkable
     
  18. kmello69

    kmello69 Initiate (0) Nov 27, 2011 Texas

    Was this a new trader or an established trader who should know better?

    It seems to be becoming more common that people send extras that are (1) available in their trading partners area, and/or (2) old.

    However, some DIPAs age nicely. Personally, I like Apocalypse Cow with a year or two on it versus fresh.
     
  19. markgugs

    markgugs Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2006 New Jersey

    at the end of the day, it's still an EXTRA. it wasn't like the guy stiffed the OP and dropped old hoppy beer in as part of the agreed upon trade. no room for complaint.

    now, is it common trade courtesy? no, and I wouldn't do it, but it's still just an extra

    /thread
     
  20. lookrider

    lookrider Savant (1,208) Apr 22, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Yes, yes. I get it - extras are extra. But if you're going to send extras, why send some crappy, lowly rated beer that is mediocre at best? If you're going to send extras, send ones that are of the quality you would like to receive yourself. In fact, why not always send extras and good ones at that? Be generous. Trade like a wild man. Beer is fun - make people smile.
     
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