Fantasy draft ingredients

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  1. Prep8611

    Prep8611 Savant (1,208) Aug 22, 2014 New Jersey

    My homebrew club is having a fantasy ingredients draft just like fantasy football. Competitors will end up with 1 base malt, 2 specialty malt, 2 hops, 1 yeast, and 1 bonus item like rose hips,fruit, vanilla, oak, ect. There are 11 of us. What do you think the most important ingredient to grab in the first round is? I was thinking yeast or basemalt.
     
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  2. NeroFiddled

    NeroFiddled Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,276) Jul 8, 2002 Pennsylvania
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    I would go with base malt, but yeast is a really close 2nd. Sounds interesting. Wait! I changed my mind, I'd go with yeast first.
     
  3. Bryan12345

    Bryan12345 Initiate (0) Mar 17, 2016 Texas

    DME! :slight_smile:
     
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  4. Prep8611

    Prep8611 Savant (1,208) Aug 22, 2014 New Jersey

    This is one of the options where I will draft every other category if this the only “base” left and wait till my last pick to take that.

    Base malts are:
    2row
    6row
    Pale ale malt
    Maris otter
    Golden promise
    Vienna
    Munich
    Chevalier
    American pilsner
    Continental pilsner
    Pale extract

    Yeast:
    Chico
    French saison
    Alchemist(Conan)
    Fullers
    Boddingtons
    Windsor dry yeast
    Westmalle
    Weistephaner (lager)
    Weistephaner (hefe)
    Nottingham dry yeast
    Voss kviek

    Hops are a mix of American and European varieties. Specialty grains are a mix of wheats, oats, rye, crystal malts, roasted malts and smoke malt. Should be a fun day I will post back what I end up with. I’m leaning toward yeast for sure although I really don’t want to end up with 6 row.
     
  5. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    * Lovibond? Maltster?
     
  6. minderbender

    minderbender Initiate (0) Jan 18, 2009 New York

    Is there any trading once the draft is complete? Because if not you could really get screwed with some of those combos, it seems to me. That said, most of those base malts are fine, so I would probably lock down my yeast first.
     
  7. billandsuz

    billandsuz Pooh-Bah (2,097) Sep 1, 2004 New York
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    Well, you could make anything from that a la carte. I mean are you required to use a certain percentage of specialty malts? Excepting 100% Munich malt for a base I think I could pull off something half decent if I didn't have a choice. Even with Munich for a base something good could be made.

    Just don't get stuck with the 6 row. Let some other shnook figure out how to make that turd shine. That's just my two cents.
    Cheers.
     
  8. Prep8611

    Prep8611 Savant (1,208) Aug 22, 2014 New Jersey

    No trading. Ya it’s gonna be a mess lol
     
  9. Prep8611

    Prep8611 Savant (1,208) Aug 22, 2014 New Jersey

    Minimum of specialty malts is 4oz for a 5 gallon batch.Hops are 1Oz each type for a 5 gallon batch.
     
  10. Prep8611

    Prep8611 Savant (1,208) Aug 22, 2014 New Jersey

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  11. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
    Pooh-Bah

    6-row getting way more hate than it deserves. Worked out nicely in a cream ale, and I have no reason to think it will suck in the Classic American Pils I brewed yesterday. You guys both have some experience under your belts and maybe you gave it a few chances already. If not, I suggest going out of your way to try it.
     
  12. Prep8611

    Prep8611 Savant (1,208) Aug 22, 2014 New Jersey

    6 row with roasted barley and crystal 60 would be a bad time.
     
  13. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
    Pooh-Bah

    You don't think you could make good stout with them? I think it could work.
     
  14. billandsuz

    billandsuz Pooh-Bah (2,097) Sep 1, 2004 New York
    Pooh-Bah

    True, there is plenty of other brew ingredients that could be worse. Cluster? F that!
    But 6-row is more like, why? I can't ever remember thinking "This would be better with 6-row".

    Maybe if the goal is a Lite AAL or for some reason you needed the enzyme help.

    This is an interesting survey going on here.
    Cheers.
     
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  15. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
    Pooh-Bah

    LOL --> https://www.beeradvocate.com/commun...-brewin-septermber.586649/page-3#post-6186686

    6 row AND cluster! But my jury is still out. I've only used it for bittering before, but here I boldly used throughout at early and mid boil, plus steeping. Don't think I'll dry hop though.

    I'm not sure I would say X would be better with 6 row. Just thinking there are probably a lot of beers where you wouldn't notice, as long as you had specialty grains and decent hops (cluster?) to back you up. But I'm shooting my mouth off with little experience.

    I believe I have seen winter 6-row in historical Belgian recipes, but I'm not sure how that would compare to modern NA 6-row. Quite possibly a different animal. Still, I could see trying a saison with it. In any event, the fact that you only see 6-row in historical recipes means modern brewing has eschewed it for a reason. Just not sure that reason should be attributed to our sensory perception. Easier on the maltster, perhaps, if there are fewer grain types coming into the malthouse? Wondering about the agronomics, etc., whether there are other reasons 6 row appears to be going the way of the dodo. Or Betamax.
     
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  16. Prep8611

    Prep8611 Savant (1,208) Aug 22, 2014 New Jersey

    Not really. It would need a lot of crystal 60 to balance out the acridness of roasted barley
     
  17. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
    Pooh-Bah

    A dry stout typically has zero crystal to balance out the acridness of roasted barley. Anyhow, American stout is where I think I'd take these three ingredients. Sort of academic until you are stuck with the ingredients, but I think you could make something palatable.
     
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  18. Prep8611

    Prep8611 Savant (1,208) Aug 22, 2014 New Jersey

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    Here are the results for me:
    Maris otter
    Flaked oats
    El Dorado
    Weistephaner lager
    Carahell
     
  19. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
    Pooh-Bah

    Of course I was talking about an American Stout with pineapple, chilis, and trendy hops
     
  20. Prep8611

    Prep8611 Savant (1,208) Aug 22, 2014 New Jersey

    Talk about a rough grain bill. I think he’s gonna go for an American red.
     
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