Farmhouse/Saison with fruit extract flavor?

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  1. CaptainQuint

    CaptainQuint Initiate (0) Apr 23, 2014 Massachusetts

    Hey all! Looking to brew a Farmhouse/saison this weekend with some raspberry flavor and maybe a bit of paradise seeds for a touch of spice?


    I've never made a farmhouse/saison, in fact I'm not too sure what the difference is. Yeast?

    My main goal is to have a slightly higher ABV (6+%) and also have some raspberry flavor. Should I add the raspberry flavor extract to the last 5 mins of the boil or just into the keg before kegging? I used some light candied sugar in a Belgian I made last year, thinking of doing that again...good idea or bad idea?


    Any suggestions on how to make a great farmhouse/saison would be greatly appreciated!


    5 gal total batch.
    2.5 gal boil with 2.5 water to top off.
    Extract brew with partial mash
    Primary and carboy for secondary.
    Minimal ability for controlling temperature of fermentation (it's done in a basement)
     
    #1 CaptainQuint, Jun 17, 2015
  2. CaptainQuint

    CaptainQuint Initiate (0) Apr 23, 2014 Massachusetts

    Note taken. What is the best way to use real fruit? In a puree or buy them frozen and dump them into the carboy? I did a blueberry wheat ale a while back and used 4 pounds of real blueberries (2 in primary and 2 in secondary) and seemed to pick up WAY too many tannins from the skins of the frozen blueberries.
     
    #2 CaptainQuint, Jun 17, 2015
  3. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    It's debatable, but one way to look at it is that there are two types of farmhouse ales: Saison and Biere de Garde. And Grisette. Three types of farmhouse ales. Read the book "Farmhouse Ales" for lots of speculation and confusion. Actually, it is a good read, but a little frustrating. Part of the problem is we're trying to categorize historic "styles" that didn't historically have guidelines or much cohesion between brewers (the farmhouses).

    A slight trend I think I'm noticing in commercial craft brews is a tendency to call non-Brett Saisons "Saisons," and Brett Saisons "Farmhouse Ales." But really, it's quite variable.
     
    #3 VikeMan, Jun 18, 2015
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  4. pants678

    pants678 Maven (1,374) Jan 26, 2009 California
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    i did a raspberry saison it seems like a year ago. contrary to above post, i'd suggest 1lb/Gal.
     
    #4 pants678, Jun 18, 2015
  5. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I agree with this. Raspberries are one fruit that really comes through very well. 1lb per gallon is what I use.
     
    #5 VikeMan, Jun 18, 2015
  6. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    And yet, Farmhouse Ales, Yven De Bates, and the top 3 beers in the BJCP style guidelines would utterly disagree with you...
     
    #6 jbakajust1, Jun 18, 2015
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  7. HoppyJoe328

    HoppyJoe328 Initiate (0) Sep 28, 2008 Pennsylvania

    So what did you end up doing and how did it turn out? I was considering soaking raspberries in vodka and adding them to a secondary similar to dry hopping.
     
    #7 HoppyJoe328, Jun 17, 2016
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