Fast Pitch canned Wort question...

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  1. RocketCityVol

    RocketCityVol Initiate (0) Feb 9, 2014 Alabama

    Hey everyone, I decided a month ago that I wanted to pull the trigger and get into brewing. I have been buying all the equipment to get started, such as, deluxe starter kit, burner, wort chiller, 8 gallon kettle, etc. I am trying to figure out other things I need. I noticed that there is fast pitch canned wort. How does that work and is it worth buying and trying to use for a 5 gallon extract kit? I would also like to hear any other advice you would have for me on getting started. Thanks and Cheers!
     
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  2. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    Welcome to this great hobby and to the Homebrewing forum. We're glad that you're here.

    I have not used this product, and this topic does not come up very often. However, here is a link to a recent thread that may help answer your questions about it. https://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/nb-fast-pitch-canned-wort.335544/

    Other advice to help you get started is to read John Palmer's book HowToBrew.com which is free to read online, or purchase the updated edition so that you have something to highlight, write notes, etc. It's only around a $15 book and just about every person who frequents this forum has read it. The book talks about equipment, etc. so that you can get an opinion on what you still need to get started.

    You can also do a search of the forum and use "newbie' or other similar search words to find many threads with starter advice.
     
  3. Abk542

    Abk542 Initiate (0) Sep 26, 2015 Michigan

    Welcome to a truely wonderful hobby/way of life. In terms of canned sort it is essentially best used (at least in my experience) as a fluid to start a yeast starter. A yeast starter needs consumable sugars and canned wort gets rid of the need to boil DME in water to present these consumable sugars. If you plan to make yeast starters I recommend starting with fast pitch. Here is a video of someone making your average yeast starter.

    And here is one using fast pitch.
     
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  4. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,958) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
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    1) Read How to Brew, go ahead and buy the hard copy, you won't regret it
    2) the canned wort is for yeast starters, don't worry about yeast starters in the beginning, use dry yeast
    3) ask questions BEFORE you start brewing, get everything figured out before you make mistakes
     
  5. CarolusP

    CarolusP Zealot (590) Oct 22, 2015 Minnesota

    I received a couple of those cans for free from my LHBS. They worked, but it's not something I'd likely ever spend my money on, since it's so easy to make a quick wort for a starter just using DME.

    Based on your question, I think you might be making the same wrong assumption that I almost made when I first received those cans, so let me clarify one thing. There is NO yeast in those cans. It is just wort. When I first seen those cans, I basically thought they were just cans of yeast slurry, but I was mistaken.
     
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  6. TooHopTooHandle

    TooHopTooHandle Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2016 New York

    I just recently used the Fast Pitched canned wort. I absolutely loved it. Obviously you can buy DME and yeast nutrient yourself and make a starter wort for your yeast, but this makes it really simple and saves alot of time and measuring and playing around with stuff. It's basically just a product to save time. Spending the $2.50 per can is worth it for me. You sanitize your flask, sanitize the can then pour it in the flask. Add 1 can worth of distilled water, pitch your yeast and put it on a stir plate (I left mine stir for 48 hours then cold crashed for 24 hours in the fridge, then decanted off 90% of the liquid before pitching and let it sit at room temperature while you are going through your brew process before you pitch it ). Just make sure you sanitize properly along the way. Below is a picture of day 3 of fermenting a 5 gallon batch in a 7 gallon bucket lol make sure you use a blow off tube instead of an air lock or you will have a disaster of a mess to clean up. The reason for the spoon in the krausen was I had to poke a small hole in it to drop my dry hops in... yes the spoon was sanitized lol
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  7. RocketCityVol

    RocketCityVol Initiate (0) Feb 9, 2014 Alabama

    I used it on brewing a batch on Saturday. Everything was simple and easy. I kept in on a stir plate overnight and pitched it in the batch of beer. Everything seems to be fermenting nicely.
     
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  8. Wolfhead

    Wolfhead Pundit (795) Sep 1, 2009 Illinois

    Bought two cans, made two starters, no problems
    Seems like cheating but you do pay for the convenience
     
  9. samw5

    samw5 Initiate (0) Feb 18, 2019

    How much do u guys use of fast pitch for a 5gal batch?

    Trying to brew an IPA. Starting og should be 1.074. kit I got came with 4 fast pitch cans but Im not sure if I need all.

    Also any yeast recommendation? Again kit came with 2 11.5g safale us05 yeast packs.

    Some folks are recommending just using the dry yeast but I wanted to experiment with yeast starter... Albeit it will be my first time.

    Any recommendations?
     
  10. Granitebeard

    Granitebeard Zealot (549) Aug 24, 2016 Maine

    Sounds like you were sold something you don't need. The fast pitch is not for brewing beer. Don't try to do that with it. It would cost you a fortune to do it. They are just for what is called a yeast starter. A yeast starter is a way to help insure that you have enough viable yeast if you use liquid yeasts.

    The yeast you kit came with is more than enough and the right type for what you are trying to brew.

    If you have dry yeast, you really don't need to make a starter. Most people say you can't/don't need to with dry yeast, but I really can't say. The few times I made yeast starters, it was a mess, and the beer tasted off to me. So I am very hesitant to make starters now, but that is just me.
     
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  11. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    Welcome to the BA site and to the Homebrewing forum, samw5.

    Did the Fast Pitch come in a kit with instructions to use it to brew beer? If so, I don't think you want to use that store again.

    If you are just starting this great hobby, I'll suggest that you start with the basics before you try using yeast starters. To help you get your first batch behind you, read HowToBrew.com to gain some book knowledge t that will guide you to deciding your goals and methods to reach them, i.e. Do you want to brew extract beers or jump right into the more complex brewing method known as all-grain. The book discusses both methods and the equipment needed.
     
  12. samw5

    samw5 Initiate (0) Feb 18, 2019

    ah... i guess that my post didn't come out right clearly.
    i was asking how much yeast starter to actually use for a 5gal batch using the fast pitch to make the yeast starter...

    My intent was to try using the 2 packs of dry yeast with the fast pitch cans (wasn't entirely sure how many cans to use) and make the starter the day before brewing.

    Most folks seem to be inclined that just rehydrating the yeast is enough (which is how I'm used to do it) however I was reading of the benefits of using a starter hence the 4 cans of fast pitch that I purchased with the order.

    The kit instructions don't really go over using the starter so I didn't know the quantity to use.
     
  13. Brewday

    Brewday Zealot (721) Dec 25, 2015 New York

    Read the top. Save the cans for liquid yeast. Two cans,one packet liquid yeast for 5 gals.
    http://www.howtobrew.com/book/section-1/yeast/preparing-yeast-and-yeast-starters
     
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  14. samw5

    samw5 Initiate (0) Feb 18, 2019

    Alright... i guess back to rehydrating the dry packs and saving the fast pitch cans for later when I get some liquid yeast to make a proper batch of starter yeast.
     
  15. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    I'll guess that the greatest use of First Pitch is by homebrewers who harvest yeast after a completed batch so that a starter can be built up for a subsequent batch of for a high abv beer that requires a giant pitch of yeast. But you can use it to build up a liquid yeast as planned if there is a reason to increase the cell count.
     
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