Favorite Reinheitsgebot beer?

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  1. geodonnokepyo

    geodonnokepyo Disciple (388) Oct 31, 2013 Pennsylvania

    Just picked up a couple of favorites from the bottle shop today; Ayinger's Brau weisse and Schneider's Aventinus Weizenbock.

    This got me to thinking what everyone else's favorite beers are that are brewed in the Bavarian Purity Law tradition.

    Aventinus takes the cake for me

    So what are your favorites?
     
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  2. Squire

    Squire Poo-Bah (2,430) Jul 16, 2015 Mississippi
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    Locally we get a good range, Spaten, Weihenstephan, Ayinger, Urquell and others. What I choose depends on the bottling code.
     
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  3. Urk1127

    Urk1127 Meyvn (1,389) Jul 2, 2014 New Jersey

    Paulaner Oktoberfest Weisn
     
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  4. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Poo-Bah (6,957) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    Aventinus 6
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  5. WCKDVBZ

    WCKDVBZ Meyvn (1,034) May 9, 2014 South Carolina

  6. ArsMoriendiOU818

    ArsMoriendiOU818 Zealot (548) Nov 5, 2013 California

    The new Weihenstephaner 1516 really gets me going.
     
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    dcotom Poo-Bah (2,567) Aug 4, 2014 Iowa
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  8. akolb

    akolb Initiate (0) Aug 8, 2015 Colorado
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    I loved Paulaner's Oktoberfest. Has a certain bready goodness that American Oktoberfests can't quite seem to match.
    Schneider Aventinus Weizen-Eisbock and Kulmbacher Eisbock are also great.
     
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  9. captaincoffee

    captaincoffee Poo-Bah (1,791) Jul 10, 2011 Virginia
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    Can't say I give a crap about reinheitsgebot per se, but I do love me some Ayinger, Andechs, Weihenstephaner, Schneider Weisse, etc. I don't know how to pick a favorite since an eisbock and a helles are so drastically different.
     
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  10. elucas730

    elucas730 Initiate (146) Feb 5, 2010 New York

    Am I missing something here? The main purpose of the original Bavarian Reinheitsgebot was to exclude wheat from the production of beer, either for competitive reasons (German breweries outside of Bavaria were much more likely to use wheat in their beers) or to ensure that enough wheat was available so that bread remained available and affordable. As such, the two wheat beers you have chosen violate the Reinheitsgebot.
     
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  11. steveh

    steveh Poo-Bah (2,715) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    I agree with your observation, and also thought the choice of Weizenbock was rather ironic. However, the Reinheitsgebot was "amended" to include wheat in brewing some years later -- just as it was amended to include yeast... once it was discovered that was actually a pretty integral part of making beer what it is. :slight_smile:

    That said, my favorite beer following the Reinheitsgebot? Sierra Nevada Pale Ale, of course. What? Water, barley malt, hops and yeast -- right? There you go. :wink:
     
  12. TongoRad

    TongoRad Poo-Bah (2,807) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    Naturally carbonated too, which is important. It's not just about the ingredients.
     
  13. tillmac62

    tillmac62 Poo-Bah (1,794) Oct 2, 2013 South Carolina
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    PU, love a fresh one with the Saaz hops.
     
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  14. ZDSmith87

    ZDSmith87 Initiate (177) Jul 18, 2014 Massachusetts
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    Boston Lager
     
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  15. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Poo-Bah (4,660) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Troegs Sunshine Pils will be released in April which is just a few days away.

    WOO-HOO!!

    Cheers to water, malt, hops and yeast!!
     
  16. dennis3951

    dennis3951 Meyvn (1,011) Mar 6, 2008 New Jersey

    That's what I was going to post. Come to think about it I could post Brooklyn Black Chocolate Stout and many other US brewed craft beers.
     
  17. steveh

    steveh Poo-Bah (2,715) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    Be careful with the Stout, it may have un-malted Barley in the grain bill and call down the RHGB wrath! :grinning:
    *That, right there, is suspect. :wink:
     
  18. Hallu

    Hallu Initiate (0) Feb 2, 2016 France

    Yeah most American IPAs follow the Reinheitsgebot after all. I like German beers but they're not my favorite. They're good "drinking with mates" beers. Beyond that, I have something more challenging : a gueuze, a complex IPA, a balanced English porter, a bonkers stout etc...
     
  19. EdTheEdge

    EdTheEdge Devotee (459) Mar 26, 2011 California

    Bitburger.
     
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  20. dennis3951

    dennis3951 Meyvn (1,011) Mar 6, 2008 New Jersey

    I stand corrected, I guess you can't go by just whats on the label.:grimacing:
     
  21. lateralusbeer

    lateralusbeer Zealot (509) Feb 7, 2010 North Carolina
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    A great German style beer has incredible depth and complexity. Problem is most Americans are used to out of date, stale imports.
     
  22. steveh

    steveh Poo-Bah (2,715) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    The large print giveth, the small print taketh away. :grinning:
     
  23. Domingo

    Domingo Poo-Bah (2,690) Apr 23, 2005 Colorado
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    Andechs apparently still follows some older versions of the Reinheitsgebot (not like that really matters much beyond pride), so they seem like an appropriate choice. Love the hell, doppelbock, heller bock, and dunkel.
     
  24. drtth

    drtth Poo-Bah (4,006) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania

    Well actually it may matter some beyond pride. Turns out that while many of the teeth have been removed from the RHG, if you publicly claim to be following some version of it and are not you can get into serious legal difficulties (e.g., false advertising). And the appearances are that many German beer drinkers won't buy a beer unless it is supposedly brewed under the RHG.
     
  25. Domingo

    Domingo Poo-Bah (2,690) Apr 23, 2005 Colorado
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    I don't mean the RHG itself, just that they pride themselves in internally following an older version. I forget what tweaks they didn't adopt but there was a brewer in the German forum who got into details about it. I think a few other places (maybe Forschungs?) that also do that.
    Agree about the drinkers, 100%. It's a big deal to a lot of folks in southern Bavaria. They're hardcore enough to shun beers from other regions in Germany, let alone something called a beer that was impure. :stuck_out_tongue:
     
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  26. drtth

    drtth Poo-Bah (4,006) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania

    Got it. Have any thoughts about whether that is related to the age of the equipment, etc. or is a "philosophical" commitment?
     
  27. Domingo

    Domingo Poo-Bah (2,690) Apr 23, 2005 Colorado
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    From memory it was a philosophical thing and not something they necessarily publicised. I think one of the older brewers had trained using certain techniques and had insisted that they stick to it. I'll have to dig around in the German forum and see if I can find it. Someone who had intered there posted about it.
     
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  28. steveh

    steveh Poo-Bah (2,715) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    Most Stouts and Porters will have a certain amount of roasted, unmalted barley in their grain bill for that roasted, coffee-like character. Though Founders' web site isn't very concise on the recipe, I'd bet they break the RHG just as Brooklyn does -- at least with the Stout.
     
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  29. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Poo-Bah (1,827) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    From their website they have a picture of the ten grains around a bottle. Flaked grain would not be RHG, and neither would roasted barley as it is not malted, but there are a lot of loopholes for top fermented beers.
    Where have you seen that it is RHG compliant? It may be as a top fermented beer.

    http://foundersbrewing.com/our-beer/imperial-stout/
     
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  30. Crim122

    Crim122 Aspirant (238) Aug 4, 2014 North Carolina

    Regarding the freshness of these German beers. Could I ask the folks at the bottle shop when their last shipment of a certain beer was for gauging freshness?
     
  31. lateralusbeer

    lateralusbeer Zealot (509) Feb 7, 2010 North Carolina
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    Problem is the shop has no idea how long it sat in a distributor's warehouse.
     
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  32. Crim122

    Crim122 Aspirant (238) Aug 4, 2014 North Carolina

    Well damn. This is why EVERYONE needs to put bottled/canned dates on :slight_frown:
     
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  33. Dravin

    Dravin Initiate (191) Apr 27, 2014 Indiana

    Thanks for bringing up an American beer. I get why German beers often come to mind first when the Reinheitsgebot comes up, but plenty of American brews meet the requirements of the law as I understand it.
     
  34. marquis

    marquis Champion (803) Nov 20, 2005 England

    There are many brewers which adhere to the principle but allow what they consider slight deviations. Such as artificial carbonation , yeast nutrients.
    An RHG Porter is possible , no Porters contained any grains except brown malt up to the early 1800s and no unmalted grains until 1880. Top fermented of course so the RHG is academic.
     
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    77apm Devotee (487) Nov 10, 2013 Illinois
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  36. Domingo

    Domingo Poo-Bah (2,690) Apr 23, 2005 Colorado
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    ^ DO WANT.
     
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  37. nick0417

    nick0417 Initiate (0) Jun 13, 2014 Illinois

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  38. nick0417

    nick0417 Initiate (0) Jun 13, 2014 Illinois

    Ayinger's Marzen. Hands down. One of the handful of beers I look forward to every year.
     
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  39. 77apm

    77apm Devotee (487) Nov 10, 2013 Illinois
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    Thumbprint pricing was an initial shock since Yokel, very similar style a couple years ago, was a seasonal price and full distro. But I do have to say cost be damned on this one, I love it!
     
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    nick0417 Initiate (0) Jun 13, 2014 Illinois

    Any comparison to Yokel is fine by me. Only at the Depot, right? Really hoping to score some of this before it's gone.
     
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