Fermentaion Temp and Ambient Temp

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  1. trh70

    trh70 Initiate (0) Dec 31, 2011 Florida

    What is the difference?

    I have been using a closet for fermentation. Which stays about 72 in the warmer months and about 65 in the cooler months. Are these adequate temps?
     
  2. CADETS3

    CADETS3 Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2014 Texas

    Depending how vigorous fermentation is, it could be up to 10 degrees warmer. So no.
     
  3. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    Exothermic reactions have their up and down sides. : )

    This is why I always recommend a ghetto swamp cooler for new brewers and cheapskates like myself : )
     
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  4. ChuckHardslab

    ChuckHardslab Maven (1,251) Jan 25, 2012 Texas

    I did the swamp cooler thing for the first year I brewed. I got a chest freezer and temp controller after that and haven't looked back. Then again in Texas my house temperature never gets below 76 for much of the year because the A/C already costs too much. A chest freezer was far more economical than cranking down the thermostat. I keep a separate thermometer in a bottle of water in my freezer to gauge the temp offset between the water and the wort when fermenting. I usually see the water running 5-6 degrees cooler when fermentation is in full swing.
     
  5. trh70

    trh70 Initiate (0) Dec 31, 2011 Florida

    So what is a swamp cooler?
     
  6. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    In a small fermenter such as a 5-gallon carboy the difference between the air temperature and the beer temperature is usually within about 5 ºF. So if you have a yeast strain that produces the best beer when fermentation is held at 70 ºF the surrounding air temperature should be around 65 ºF. You can periodically monitor this by inserting a thermometer into the fermenting beer. - Mr. Wizard / BYO
     
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  7. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    I could be a douche and tell you to google it : ), but in a nutshell: a cooling concept/apparatus that relies on air being drawn over something cool to remove more heat than would have been removed through normal heat transfer to ambient. I hope I'm close to the Wikipedia entry : ) In homebrewing circles, a fan and a wet T-shirt over your fermenter, submerged in an ice/water bath)
     
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  8. trh70

    trh70 Initiate (0) Dec 31, 2011 Florida

    Looked swamp cooler for brewing. It's what I thought it may be.

    Thanks guys. I will have to do this.
     
  9. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    Occasionally, I measure the internal temperature on the second or third day. It's usually 2F - 4F higher than ambient. Not sure who started the "could be as high as 10F hotter than ambient" line. I think it was Palmer. I have never measured anything near that with beers below 8%. Bigger beers may get hotter, but I don't brew them.
     
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  10. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    A little known secret organization similar to Free Masons and the Illuminati (Palmer, no doubt) : )
     
  11. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    I think it was the Temperature Controller Consortium that originally spread that disinformation.
     
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  12. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    *passes out tinfoil hats*
     
  13. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,958) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
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    I don't think I have ever had a temp more than 5F above ambient and that was with a raging fermentation, but that was probably a 1055ish beer. With that said, a large cooler or a plastic tote and a water bath will go a long way in controlling fermentation temps.
     
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