Fermentation time for 1 gallon batch

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  1. DerrickW

    DerrickW Pundit (991) Jan 17, 2013 Georgia

    Greetings BAs,

    I brewed my first beer this past Sunday; a one gallon batch of a vanilla honey porter. It was fermenting quite nicely through Monday, but it's slowed down quite a bit today. I'm new to this, but I thought fermentation took 1-2 weeks. Has it slowed down so much because the batch size is so small or could there be other factors at play? I'm going to wait until the weekend to bottle but any thoughts would be appreciated.
     
  2. OddNotion

    OddNotion Pooh-Bah (1,915) Nov 1, 2009 New Jersey
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    Dont bottle yet, make sure fermentation has actually finished with hydrometer readings. The problem with a 1 gallon batch is that taking the volume out for a hydrometer reading is pretty significant compared to total batch size. I would say keep it in the primary for 2 to 3 weeks so fermentation can definitely finish and the yeast can clean up after itself.

    Fermentation time generally will take the same time regardless of batch size. Youll see a few days of active fermentation then it will being to calm down, but it is still doing work.
     
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  3. DerrickW

    DerrickW Pundit (991) Jan 17, 2013 Georgia

    Awesome. Thanks for the info.
     
  4. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    The most active phermatation phase occurs during the phirst phew days after pitching the yeast after which the party winds down slowly.

    Let your the wort ferment a full two weeks...three being more better before bottling.

    Patience hop-grasser.
    Patience.
     
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  5. JrGtr

    JrGtr Pooh-Bah (1,775) Apr 13, 2006 Massachusetts
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    WHat he said... I think :wink:
    THe active part of fermentation is generally well under a week - with high temps, maybe only a couple days. That doesn't mean things are ready to go then - there are off-compounds that are re-absorbed or broken down by the yeast - we anthropomorpose it by saying they clean up after themselves.
    IN any case, they are still working in there, and after that they will slowly go to sleep and settle out of solution.
    I used to give my beers 2 weeks religiously, and they were decent, but I thought it could be better. I had one that I had to leave for 3, and turned out the best one yet. Since then, I've given them 3 weeks - I'll usually pop it open 2 weeks 5 days to check gravity, so that at the 3 week mark I am ready to bottle, presuming the gravity is the same. (only really get weekends to brew and brew related activities such as bottling)
    I have had beers that needed 4 full weeks in there before being done - and that one actually is still getting better in the bottle as time goes on. (we're not 6+ months past brewing, I think, on that one.
     
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  6. DerrickW

    DerrickW Pundit (991) Jan 17, 2013 Georgia

    Thanks for sharing that. I can tell that the color is developing and everything is settling to the bottom. I'll give it 3 weeks before bottling.
     
  7. billandsuz

    billandsuz Pooh-Bah (2,097) Sep 1, 2004 New York
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    if you have honey in your vanilla honey porter, you should know that honey is notoriously slow to fully ferment. yeast will eventually devour all of the available sugar in the honey, but it sometimes takes a while depending on circumstances.

    so, double your patience.

    with a one gallon batch you really can't be taking too many gravity samples. 3 weeks minimum, and let it sit quietly.

    Cheers.
     
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  8. kalvarez

    kalvarez Initiate (0) Jul 22, 2010 Wisconsin

    I'd grab a refractometer if you're doing one gallon batches. A few drops is all you need for readings.
     
  9. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    I did not know that but now I do.
     
  10. reverseapachemaster

    reverseapachemaster Zealot (722) Sep 21, 2012 Texas

    Honey by itself is slow to fully ferment because it lacks nutrients the yeast need. Honey added to wort does not have that problem because the wort will supply the needed nutrients.
     
  11. billandsuz

    billandsuz Pooh-Bah (2,097) Sep 1, 2004 New York
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    this is true. honey by itself lacks some nutrients required for the yeast. mead can take a very long time to get down to gravity, and it is always advisable to consider the addition of yeast nutrient in these instances.

    honey also is comprised of many sugars, and this too slows down yeast metabolism. honey is nearly 100% fermentable, but not all at once.
    if you add honey to wort, the honey will require extra time for the yeast to ferment. and the more that is added the longer it will take. a small addition, 5%, probably doesn't make too much difference.
    so your statement is correct, but not complete.
    Cheers.
     
  12. reverseapachemaster

    reverseapachemaster Zealot (722) Sep 21, 2012 Texas

    If your point is that adding more fermentable sugar to wort will make it take longer to ferment, sure, that is generally going to be true. That is as obvious as saying a beer with a higher gravity often requires more fermentation time than a beer of a lesser gravity.

    However, honey is not special in the way it is fermented that makes it take longer in wort than other sugar sources. It is primarily glucose and fructose. Glucose is readily absorbed and fermented. Fructose is easily enzymatically broken down into glucose and then fermented. There is also a small amount of sucrose, which again is easily enzymatically broken down. The remaining sugars are reducing sugars that most brewing yeast cannot ferment so no amount of time will result in their fermentation. The process of fermenting honey takes no longer than the simultaneous process of enzymatically breaking down maltose and other more complex wort-introduced sugars into glucose.
     
  13. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    About 99% of the sugars in a typical honey are comprised of Fructose, Glucose, Sucrose, and Maltose. i.e. a subset of the sugars found in beer wort. I read this in a BYO article.
     
  14. DerrickW

    DerrickW Pundit (991) Jan 17, 2013 Georgia

    What's the best way to get a tasting sample from this one gallon batch? It's been fermenting in a glass container, similar to a growler, since last Sunday. I'd like to see if I need to add additonal vanilla to the beer.
     
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