Fermentation with Brett B in secondary

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  1. od_sf

    od_sf Initiate (0) Nov 2, 2010 California

    Hello!

    Recently brewed a Belgian pale ale (og 1.045) and fermented in primary with Wyeast 1214. After 4 weeks gravity was down to 1.008 so I racked to secondary and pitched a healthy starter of brett B. I have seen virtually zero sign of further fermentation since this. Usually when I pitch brettanomyces in secondary I will get some signs of additional fermentation, and a sickly white pellicle forms. Here, nothing. A few bubbles the second day but that's it.

    Have you experienced this? Should I be concerned that the brett has gone to sleep? Fermentation temp has remained a steady 68 throughout, and I have had good results with brett at this temp. I haven't taken a hydrometer reading yet because I'll let it sit for another month before doing anything to it, but I'm wondering if anyone has experienced this before.

    Cheers,

    od
     
  2. od_sf

    od_sf Initiate (0) Nov 2, 2010 California

    I should mention that the beer has been sitting on the brett in secondary for almost a month now...
     
  3. Krumb

    Krumb Initiate (0) Jan 30, 2008 Texas

    I've experienced this...and the beers always turned out quite funky. You mention that you never took a reading...so, I'm assuming you haven't exposed the secondary to oxygen since transferring? My understanding and experience with brett is that when it is exposed to oxygen, the pellicle will then form. Not to say you should do this...but like I said, I've had great brett beers which never showed signs of a pellicle.

    Actually, I just racked a saison that I fermented with 3711 for 48 hrs and then pitched a healthy brett b starter into the mix...and it never formed a pellicle or showed any signs of additional fermentation. It was in the fermenter for 3 months...I just kegged it, and it's got a nice brett b funk going on.

    Let that beer sit for a bit longer. Should be nice and funky in a few months.
     
  4. atomeyes

    atomeyes Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2011 Canada (ON)

    Pellicle means nothing.

    it may come by month 3, it may not really come at all. i've had an all-brett stout whose pellicle resembles a test for colour blindness. no zombie skin.

    meanwhile, my sour mix from East Coast Labs has, in month 3, developed what looks like large spit bubbles.

    oh, i should add that knowing your malt bill would help.
     
  5. od_sf

    od_sf Initiate (0) Nov 2, 2010 California


    Very simple recipe, I don't have it here with me but it was something like 50% Belgian caravienne, 40% belgian special B and 10% Belgian candi sugar with hersbrucker & styrian goldings hops.
     
  6. atomeyes

    atomeyes Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2011 Canada (ON)


    may be part of the reason why you're seeing nothing. try to incorporate some flakes into your recipe when you use brett. gives it something to chew on. i mean, the brett's likely still working on something, but flaked ______ will give brett some food for thought.

    re-taste the beer in 3 months (or smell it)
     
  7. sergeantstogie

    sergeantstogie Initiate (0) Nov 16, 2010 Washington

    Ummm what was the base malt? You didn't actually brew a beer with only cara malt and special B +sugar did you?
     
  8. southdenverhoo

    southdenverhoo Pooh-Bah (1,567) Aug 13, 2004 Colorado
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    probably an extract brew with just some steeping grains, don't you think?
     
  9. sergeantstogie

    sergeantstogie Initiate (0) Nov 16, 2010 Washington

    Well, I would hope so. We'll see I guess.
     
  10. southdenverhoo

    southdenverhoo Pooh-Bah (1,567) Aug 13, 2004 Colorado
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    it was down to 1.008 before the brett addition, hard to to that with jut caravienne, special B and sugar.

    Hmmm--hard to do that with extract, too, no? I've never done anything but all grain so I don't know but I thought extract finishing gravities were higher.
     
  11. atomeyes

    atomeyes Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2011 Canada (ON)

    totally missed the %s that he put. i'd actually be curious to see/taste what kind of beer this would be.
     
  12. sergeantstogie

    sergeantstogie Initiate (0) Nov 16, 2010 Washington

    Yeah...given all the "unfermentables" that would be left after the 1214 finished, the Brett would have plenty to chew on for a long time. It might ....just...be.... genius
     
  13. atomeyes

    atomeyes Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2011 Canada (ON)

    THE WORLD'S MOST COMPLEX BEER EVER.*

    *fermentation complete by 2078
     
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  14. od_sf

    od_sf Initiate (0) Nov 2, 2010 California

    Oops sorry, had something like 8 lbs of Belgian pilsner malt in there too. Brainfart. :slight_smile:
     
  15. sergeantstogie

    sergeantstogie Initiate (0) Nov 16, 2010 Washington

    Ta Da! Now we are cookin with gas!
     
  16. atomeyes

    atomeyes Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2011 Canada (ON)

    yeah. see my comment about flakes.
     
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