FiftyFifty Eclipse Futures Announced

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  1. abarr8

    abarr8 Initiate (0) Nov 15, 2006 California

    FiftyFifty Brewing Co has announced the annual sale of Eclipse Futures. In addition, they have announced that they are switching to a 500mL bottle format for the year's release.

    Futures will go on sale Monday April 15th for Brewers’ Intent members, and on Tuesday April 16th for the general public. https://fiftyfiftybrewing.com/shop/

    Some styles will definitely sell out via the Futures process:

    Isolated Barrel Variants - $16
    • Aged in Basil Hayden® Barrels
    • Aged in Bookers® Barrels
    • Rye Cuvee Blend: "The best of the best Rye Bourbon barrels"
    • Double Barrel Delight: "Aged in 2 distinct spirits barrels, picking the best of the best"

    Experimental Barrel Variants - $18
    • Manhattan Cherry Rye: "BA Stout meets a Manhattan - with a cherry on top"
    • Vietnamese Coffee: "Bold strong coffee with sweet cream decadence"
    • German Chocolate Cake: "Coconut, cocoa and vanilla"

    3L Jeroboams - $170
    • Aged in Basil Hayden® Barrels
    • Rye Cuvee Blend
    • German Chocolate Cake

    Actual bottles will release on Friday, December 6th, and they now ship to the states of California, Nevada, Oregon, Washington, Idaho, Utah, Arizona and New Mexico.

    A 50% deposit is due at the time of purchase to reserve your allocation, with the remaining 50%, plus the full sales tax and any applicable shipping due in October.

    https://fiftyfiftybrewing.com/shop/
     
    #1 abarr8, Apr 12, 2019
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  2. Harrison8

    Harrison8 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,285) Dec 6, 2015 Missouri
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    I'm unfamiliar with Eclipse's setup - will these bottles see distribution?

    The local market does not get Eclipse stouts, but I know I've seen them while traveling. I'm unaware of if these are "Futures" bottles or not.
     
    #2 Harrison8, Apr 12, 2019
  3. eldoctorador

    eldoctorador Pooh-Bah (2,096) Dec 12, 2014 Chile
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    Perhaps a stupid question. What is the difference between these releases and the Eclipse bottles you find in Whole Foods and other liquor stores?
     
    #3 eldoctorador, Apr 12, 2019
  4. SuperWhip

    SuperWhip Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2011 California

    Futures allow you to lock in a bottle and the lower price (Generally stores mark up from what you get via the futures) Those that don't sell out during the futures generally see distribution
     
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  5. oldbean

    oldbean Initiate (0) Jun 30, 2005 Massachusetts

    500ml bottles are a good call here and an underrated format in general.
     
    #5 oldbean, Apr 14, 2019
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  6. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    I can get Eclipse in Pa and the bottles are north of $30. They’re really nice stouts, but the price tag makes me take a step back. The white wax Eclipse 20 yr Elijah Craig is probably the best stout I’ve ever had though. I’d spring for it if I saw it.
     
    #6 nc41, Apr 14, 2019
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  7. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    Right. Unless you happen to live somewhere near Lake Tahoe, I'm assumimg the primary draw is to lock in access to particularly popular variants (as shipping costs will typically absorb any cost savings you might derive from the program). It's the only reason I might be interested in obtaining futures of these beers (as we get pretty good distribution of Eclipse beers up here).
     
    #7 John_M, Apr 14, 2019
  8. jakecattleco

    jakecattleco Grand Pooh-Bah (3,749) Sep 3, 2008 California
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    Haven't crossed paths with the 20 year, but the 12 year EC Eclipse is the best beer I've had from them (though there's still a couple in the cellar). I'll definitely swing in to grab a taste and bottle of the Rye Cuvee and Vietnamese Coffee variants.
     
    #8 jakecattleco, Apr 14, 2019
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  9. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    The EC 20 is deep in dark fruits, plum, raisins etc, we did it with the EC 12 and hands down everyone agreed the 20 yr was the best beer of the night. I’d like to check out the Vietnamese Coffee and Rye as well.
     
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  10. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    Is the futures sale open to the public? The link in op takes me to a membership sign up page
     
    #10 unlikelyspiderperson, Apr 14, 2019
  11. Snowcrash000

    Snowcrash000 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,041) Oct 4, 2017 Germany
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    So a 0,5l bottle is $16 and a 3l bottle is $170 :thinking_face:? That's almost twice as much as it should be, am I missing something here? Like, isn't a Jeroboam bottle supposed to be 4,5l anyway?
     
    #11 Snowcrash000, Apr 14, 2019
  12. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    Don't think so. When I google jeroboam beer (like for a jeroboam of chimay reserve), it's listed as 3 liters.

    The explanation I've always been told, is that these bottles are hand made, not massed produced, costly to make, and require special work to fill and cork\cap. They're also typically made in very small quantities, and are often times highly desired by collectors and fanboys. Hence the significant upcharge.
     
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  13. Snowcrash000

    Snowcrash000 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,041) Oct 4, 2017 Germany
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    Well, you would have to have significantly more money than brains to buy a single 3l bottle of this at $170, rather than six 0,5l bottles at $96 total. But to each their own, I guess, a sucker is born every minute, after all.
     
    #13 Snowcrash000, Apr 14, 2019
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  14. jakecattleco

    jakecattleco Grand Pooh-Bah (3,749) Sep 3, 2008 California
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    LMK if you have any challenges finding the Rye Cuvee or Vietnamese Coffee variants. I get up to Tahoe at least once a month and can grab them for you and shoot them you're way.
     
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  15. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Very cool, I might.
     
    #15 nc41, Apr 15, 2019
  16. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    No argument from me on this. Each to their own, but this is not how I want to spend my money. Completely agree with you on this.
     
    #16 John_M, Apr 15, 2019
  17. ernh

    ernh Maven (1,341) Jun 10, 2012 California

    I remember when Stone did Double Bastard in a 3l it came out about twice as expensive per ounce as buying in bombers.

    But, even looking at something like Allagash Tripel, in California it's like $9 for a 750ml bottle and $10 for a 12oz four pack. Larger formats are just more expensive to produce and/or command a higher price. I don't get it... But I'll take the cheaper and more convenient option any day! The big bottles are fun, but the beer is what counts.
     
    #17 ernh, Apr 15, 2019
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  18. ericwo

    ericwo Zealot (624) Aug 21, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    If they really want to sell it, they should have switched to 16oz cans!
     
    #18 ericwo, Apr 16, 2019
  19. rodbeermunch

    rodbeermunch Grand Pooh-Bah (3,900) Sep 30, 2015 Nevada
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    I still love Eclipse, but when KBS is everywhere for $4-5 a bottle. . .

    Their 2017 & 2018 lineup shelf turds hard round these parts. Too many substitute goods out there at half the price.
     
    #19 rodbeermunch, Apr 16, 2019
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  20. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    Same out here in PDX. I'm a big fan of the Eclipse stouts, but at $28/$29 for a 22 ounce bomber, it's hard for me to pull the trigger. A local store near me has most of the 2017 and 2018 line-up that saw distribution, and I'm tempted to grab a bottle every time I stop by. Then I see that $28.99 price tag, and I just can't do it.

    Just as you said, there are far too many other local options that are considerably cheaper and nearly as good (IMHO).
     
    #20 John_M, Apr 16, 2019
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