Fig and Lime Beer

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  1. mbarone00

    mbarone00 Initiate (0) Dec 31, 2015 Pennsylvania

    Hey, I want to brew a fig and lime beer. I'm in the early stages of developing a recipe and wanted some insight/ideas on how to put it together. I want to do an all grain brew with this. I was thinking for the style of beer to be an IPA, pale ale or maybe a saison. As far as the fruit, I would most likely have to use a dried fig and fresh limes.

    What style of beer do you think would match these fruits? I want it to be hoppy with the fig and lime in the background. Also, when would it be best to add these fruits? (flameout, during the boil, in the secondary, etc.) Thanks.
     
  2. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    When I do IPAs I instantly think of pine, citrus, and floral flavors. I'd defer to others for lime and fig. Maybe a spicy earthy hop to compliment if you really want to go the IPA route.

    You can get a Lot of heavy dark fruit (figgy raisin) flavor out of Special B malt. This is generally seen in darker beers. Nothing wrong with a dark Saison. Lots of Saison fans on the forum that can help here too. For the lime flavor you're going to scratch your knuckles from zesting limes. Two or three would give you a great flavor in a beer. That could compliment a heavy dry hop of something like Centenneal, Citra, Amarillo, if you want to Americanize it. Saaz is certainly worth noting.

    Ginger and lime are penultimate, IMHO. Ginger and fig would need soy sauce. Not so great. Food for thought.
     
  3. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    I'm thinking that the hops in an IPA or pale ale would clash with the fig flavor, so I vote saison. I've never brewed with extras added such as you're going to do, so I can't be of any help there. I just wanted to get in my vote for the saison choice.
     
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  4. FeDUBBELFIST

    FeDUBBELFIST Pooh-Bah (1,765) Oct 31, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I could see light lime flavor going decently with saison but I'm struggling to imagine fig and saison flavors marrying well. How about a Belgian Pale, our even a Belgian Brown?
     
  5. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,958) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
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    Ok, I have to ask. Why fig and lime? I don't get the combo at all. Fig to me says dark beer and lime says light beer and I don't see the two going together in one beer.

    Lime and APA/IPA would work, see Grapefruit Sculpin for a citrus example
    Fig and and a Dubbel would probably work, maybe a porter/stout?
     
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  6. FeDUBBELFIST

    FeDUBBELFIST Pooh-Bah (1,765) Oct 31, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I thought the same thing too but (of course) Google brings up a few culinary hits.
     
  7. mbarone00

    mbarone00 Initiate (0) Dec 31, 2015 Pennsylvania

    I've made a lot of dishes with fig and lime, I have always made a fig and lime jam so I thought maybe it would work in a beer.
     
  8. mbarone00

    mbarone00 Initiate (0) Dec 31, 2015 Pennsylvania

    Thanks for the feed back, I might lean toward a Belgian pale or saison.
     
  9. FeDUBBELFIST

    FeDUBBELFIST Pooh-Bah (1,765) Oct 31, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    If certain flavors go well together, then the flavors go well together. Food and beer. To a certain extent at least. The challenge is finding a beer style that would compliment it. That is why I suggested a Belgian Pale. The pale malts should compliment the lime and the yeast should compliment the fig. Similar for the Belgian Brown, except that I think that slightly darker malts (toast, light roast, chocolate) would work well with not only the fig, but also the lime as well. Think about how citrus and chocolate are often paired together. And then as far as the Belgian yeast, again, the Belgian yeasts esters should compliment the fig.
     
  10. mbarone00

    mbarone00 Initiate (0) Dec 31, 2015 Pennsylvania

    Alright, after looking at a few recipes, I've put this together. I am still making tweaks to it and researching more about when to add the fruit and such.

    My thoughts are to use about 2 or 3 limes to zest at flameout and then caramelize dry figs and use them in the secondary. Any ideas that might bring these flavors out? Would the addition of some type of sugar be beneficial? Thanks

    Grains
    6lbs. Belgian 2-row malt
    1.5lbs. Caravienne malt
    1.5lbs. Biscuit malt
    1lbs Aromatic malt

    60 Minute boil
    1oz. Motuetka @ 60 mins
    1oz. Motuetka @ 30 mins
    .5oz. Saaz @ 15 mins

    Wyeast Belgian Ale Yeast 1214
     
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  11. mbarone00

    mbarone00 Initiate (0) Dec 31, 2015 Pennsylvania

    Might actually use Wyeast Belgian Ardennes Yeast 3522 instead of the 1214 though.
     
  12. A2HB

    A2HB Initiate (0) Oct 30, 2013 Michigan

    Use a little Special B to enhance the fig, make an Old Ale, add the fig at flameout, and then secondary it with some lime peels.
     
  13. mbarone00

    mbarone00 Initiate (0) Dec 31, 2015 Pennsylvania

    Do you think the Special B should replace one of my grains, or add into it?
     
  14. mbarone00

    mbarone00 Initiate (0) Dec 31, 2015 Pennsylvania

    Updated recipe

    Grains
    6lbs. Belgian 2-row malt
    2lbs. Caravienne malt
    1.5lbs. Biscuit malt
    8oz. Carapils malt
    8oz. Aromatic malt

    60 Minute boil
    1oz. Motuetka @ 60 mins
    1oz. Motuetka @ 30 mins
    1oz. Saaz @ 15 mins

    Wyeast Belgian Ardennes Yeast 3522


    Caramelized figs and place in mesh bag towards the end of the boil @ 5 minutes or flame out. Possibly more fig puree in the secondary with lime zest. Any thoughts?
     
  15. FeDUBBELFIST

    FeDUBBELFIST Pooh-Bah (1,765) Oct 31, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Right now you have almost 25% crystal malts in your grain bill. That's a lot. I would suggest dropping the carapils entirely and reduce the caravienne to 1-1.25# max., then up the base malt to compensate.

    And I'm guessing you are choosing Moteuka because of the lime flavors/aromas it is said to impart. Could be weird, could be genius. I've never used them before so who knows? Perhaps flip your last two hop additions so more of Moteuka's lime aromas come through. At 30 minutes, it might go by unnoticed. I think it's kind of cool that Saaz is a parent of Moteuka and that you are using both in this recipe.
     
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  16. mbarone00

    mbarone00 Initiate (0) Dec 31, 2015 Pennsylvania

    Yeah I think I'll change up my grain bill, drop the carapils and reduce the caravienne and increase the base.

    You're right about the motueka, I'll follow your advice about switching the saaz and the motueka. What are your thoughts about how much fig and lime should be used?
     
  17. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    Since these two ingredients are being used as flavoring, you could consider making a tincture out of vodka with each one, and then add each liquid to your personal taste preference at the time of bottling. If your recipe is for 5 gallons of beer, you probably want to make 16 ounce tinctures of each so that you don't run out of either tincture when adding, but I doubt that you'll need to add the full 16 oz. of either one (although that will depend on how strong your flavoring is, so the stronger the better and you can use less of them when adding to the beer). If you choose this method you'll have greater control over the flavor rather than trying to figure out how much of either ingredient and how long in the secondary. However, use caution when stirring them into your bottling bucket to get them fully mixed in for sampling. You don't want to create ANY splashing when stirring so that you minimize the oxygen that could also be absorbed into your beer.

    The more that I think about the mix of these two flavors, the more I think that you HAVE TO report back about how it turns out.
     
  18. mbarone00

    mbarone00 Initiate (0) Dec 31, 2015 Pennsylvania

    Final recipe, took some ideas into consideration and will try some things out in regards to the figs and lime.

    Grains
    7lbs. Belgian 2-row malt
    1.25lbs Caravienne malt
    1lbs. Biscuit malt
    1lbs. Aromatic malt

    60 Minute boil
    1oz. Motuetka @ 60 mins
    1oz. Saaz @ 30 mins
    1oz. Motuetka @ 15 mins

    Wyeast Belgian Ardennes Yeast 3522
     
  19. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,958) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
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    Definitely report back on how this turns out
     
  20. mbarone00

    mbarone00 Initiate (0) Dec 31, 2015 Pennsylvania

    Will do, hopefully I can do it in the next few weeks.
     
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