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Release Firestone Walker Mocha Merlin can release

Discussion in 'Beer News & Releases' started by RobHB, Sep 29, 2017.

  1. RobHB

    RobHB Initiate (130) Aug 20, 2017 New Jersey

    The title says it all. Firestone, not content with a great Oatmeal Stout, releases what looks to be a great variant in their line of stouts.
     
  2. HorseheadsHophead

    HorseheadsHophead Meyvn (1,078) Sep 15, 2014 New York

    Nice! I love Velvet Merlin. This sounds great!
     
  3. Pantalones

    Pantalones Devotee (479) Nov 14, 2014 Virginia

    Velvet Merlin was already really good, and the chocolate-and-coffee stouts also tend to be great. I know it's lower ABV than a lot of the imperial stouts with these additions, too, which is always nice since I've been tending more toward the lower-ABV stuff recently.

    Definitely going to try this when I see it.
     
  4. MistaRyte

    MistaRyte Disciple (379) Jan 14, 2008 Virginia

    Take my money!
     
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  5. Sweatshirt

    Sweatshirt Aspirant (245) Jan 27, 2014 New Hampshire
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    Grapefruit UJ up next? They have started to go the way of just flavoring thier cores. Between this and the move to 12oz specialties the future is looking bleak. Disappointing.
     
  6. breadwinner

    breadwinner Meyvn (1,162) Mar 6, 2014 California
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    What other cores have they flavored? And I love the 12oz specials. I dunno, FW is still cranking the jams in my book.
     
  7. JayWhitson

    JayWhitson Devotee (461) Feb 25, 2015 Montana
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    as long as they leave Stickee Monkee alone :grin:
     
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  8. jakecattleco

    jakecattleco Meyvn (1,192) Sep 3, 2008 California

    This isn't a new recipe, just new format. Doubt they're going where you implied.
     
  9. Hoppedelic

    Hoppedelic Aspirant (225) Dec 6, 2010 California
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    What you don't want plum Stickee Monkee?

    Really? I've never seen it released before. Brewery only maybe?
     
  10. brewaddict

    brewaddict Disciple (368) Nov 25, 2015 California
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    I find Velvet Merlin is OK. Nitro Merlin is a different story. That stuff is pretty awesome. Might give this a try.
     
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  11. AZBeerDude72

    AZBeerDude72 Savant (989) Jun 10, 2016 Arizona
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    This is awesome, will be in my rotation as soon as I can get. :sunglasses:
     
  12. Zorro

    Zorro Poo-Bah (4,254) Dec 25, 2003 California
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    Already have it. It is TASTY and not super strong.
     
  13. BWood

    BWood Defender (657) Jan 4, 2015 California
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    Agreed. Merlin on nitro is phenomenal.
     
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  14. jakecattleco

    jakecattleco Meyvn (1,192) Sep 3, 2008 California

    At least in bottles it was shelf available, but maybe limited to CA.
     
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  15. deanzaZZR

    deanzaZZR Initiate (170) Jan 8, 2015 California

    I had lunch in at Venice FW last weekend and stupidly did not get a half pour of this stuff. The next Leo v. Ursus rye IPA is interesting though.
     
  16. Sweatshirt

    Sweatshirt Aspirant (245) Jan 27, 2014 New Hampshire
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    Eh. Less for more, flavoring classics...that's exactly where they are going.
     
  17. breadwinner

    breadwinner Meyvn (1,162) Mar 6, 2014 California
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    Not to be a douche (especially because I like your posts!), but they flavored one classic, with about as natural a complement as you could choose (coffee) and that has a long history of being used in the style at hand (stout). That's the only one they've flavored. And they did it 3 years ago as part of a bomber mixpack, this year they just expanded to cans. This isn't recent, it isn't extreme, and there's been not a shred of expansion elsewhere.

    As for less is more, that's well trodden ground, and I doubt anyone will change their mind at this point -- either you like small formats and are willing to take a marginal per oz cost increase in exchange for the flexibility of not being saddled with bombers, or you like the shareability and value (can't believe I said value and bombers in the same sentence) of bombers.
     
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  18. Brolo75

    Brolo75 Poo-Bah (1,678) Aug 10, 2013 California
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    I'll give it another try as I had a bottle last year and I wasn't impressed. I prefer regular Velvet Merlin to this. I remember the mocha and coffee being muted. Hopefully FW can get some fresh cans out as they're beers are usually around 4 weeks by the time I see them in the stores.
     
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  19. TheSixthRing

    TheSixthRing Poo-Bah (2,375) Sep 24, 2008 California

    Good. I was disappointed that Adversus was more or less a re-tread of the initial release, Fortem.
     
  20. TriggerFingers

    TriggerFingers Disciple (360) Apr 29, 2012 California
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    I'll give this one a go. A beloved FW fan since the early 2000's. They have never made anything that I have truly disliked. My wife would approve, thus...its a "must try."
     
  21. needMIbeer

    needMIbeer Champion (830) Feb 5, 2014 Texas
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    Where in CA are you? Seems excessive considering you are in the same state.
     
  22. Brolo75

    Brolo75 Poo-Bah (1,678) Aug 10, 2013 California
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    I'm about 4 hours south of Paso Robles. I'm not sure why but it's very rare that I find FW beers within a two week bottling period. Leo v. Ursus Inferos was canned and released two weeks ago, still not on shelves.
     
  23. needMIbeer

    needMIbeer Champion (830) Feb 5, 2014 Texas
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    That is pretty crazy considering the proximity. I've gotten to the point that the only hop forward offerings I'll buy from them are the Luponics and Leo v. Ursus series and only right when they come out. UJ and DJ are all 3+ months old whenever I check them.
     
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  24. jakecattleco

    jakecattleco Meyvn (1,192) Sep 3, 2008 California

    If they start flavoring other beers (that they haven't done previously) perhaps I'll eat my words, but I don't think you describe a trajectory that FW is following. TETO
     
  25. deanzaZZR

    deanzaZZR Initiate (170) Jan 8, 2015 California

    I'm 2 hours north of Paso Robles and it's pretty much the same here. I never saw the 2nd beer in the Leo v. Ursus series. I used FW's beer finder a few times, but the closest location was 20+ miles away.
     
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  26. Brolo75

    Brolo75 Poo-Bah (1,678) Aug 10, 2013 California
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    I know, they have a serious distribution issue. I love Union Jack but won't purchase because its usually old when it hits shelves.
     
  27. JasonJYoung

    JasonJYoung Initiate (160) Jan 7, 2015 Washington
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    I have to admit, kinda disappointed that regular Velvet Merlin will not be in the regular bottle distribution in 2017. Was actually hoping regular Velvet Merlin would be released in cans.

    Anytime a brewery releases a coffee or so-called "Chocolate" varient of an already excellent beer, things tend to get interesting. We all know how this could turn out to be a positive or negative spin on a classic beer. Why not release both? Oh please, FW (Duvel Moortgat) has plenty of money, resources, and the supply chain to handle this.

    BTW: There are still six-pack bottles of Velvet Merlin here in Seattle.

    I really hope FW doesn't mess this up!!!
     
  28. RobHB

    RobHB Initiate (130) Aug 20, 2017 New Jersey

    They are also releasing Nitro Merlin in cans. I had it on draft earlier this year and it was sublime.
     
  29. RobHB

    RobHB Initiate (130) Aug 20, 2017 New Jersey

    Picked up a six pack of the Mocha Merlin in cans for $10.99 here in NJ. Dear lord is this a wonderful beer. An absolute *perfect* amount of coffee infused in the beer (at least for my palate). You get the flavor of the coffee without the bitterness some coffee stouts can impart.

    I may have to get more of this before it sells out.
     
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  30. i_run_far

    i_run_far Initiate (63) Aug 11, 2016 District of Columbia
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    Good beer but velvet merlin is my preference, the coffee gives a little more bite than I want in a low ABV stout.
     
  31. brewaddict

    brewaddict Disciple (368) Nov 25, 2015 California
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    Love that it's made it to the East Coast already. I'm 2 hrs north of Paso Robles and it hasn't hit the shelves here yet. You watch. There will be some special bottle release on Black Friday that I'll drive down there for and that will be the first time I'll get to find it in cans.
     
  32. Harrison8

    Harrison8 Poo-Bah (1,574) Dec 6, 2015 Missouri
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    Wandered into this while looking around for Born Yesterday. I'm not quite as active as I used to be in keeping up with releases, so it was a surprise.

    And an excellent pick up. Bought some fresh Breakfast Stout this year, and the Mocha Merlin is right there alongside the Breakfast Stout - just a little thinner. Drinking Black House now (for the first time), and Mocha Merlin is right in line with that Modern Time's beer as well. I will be picking up another 6 pack of Mocha Merlin at some point here soon.

    It's safe to say, coffee beers are my weakness. I often find fault in a coffee beer that doesn't have enough coffee, but Mocha Merlin has a good amount, with the base beer still plenty detectable.
     
  33. Harrison8

    Harrison8 Poo-Bah (1,574) Dec 6, 2015 Missouri
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    There are still bottles from last year? If so, that could be part of the reasoning it's not in the line up this year.

    Velvet Merlin did sell out around here rather quick. I wonder how its sales are overall, and how those sales compare with the new mocha version.
     
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