first all-grain grain bill help

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  1. Jefeipa

    Jefeipa Initiate (0) May 6, 2009 Arizona

    I'm planing on making a 5 gallon APA. I want to make a nice hoppy APA with a nice creamy body. I need help with the grain bill. this is what I have so far
    5# 2row
    5# marris otter
    8oz of carapils
    8oz of crystal 40
    what should I add to give it a creamy body?
    And what type of yeast?
     
  2. antlerwrestler19

    antlerwrestler19 Initiate (0) Nov 24, 2010 Nebraska

    The carapils 'dextrine' malt will add a nice mouthfeel without adding much, if any, color or flavor - I'd up that if you want it to be super noticeable. Mashing at a lower temp. - say 150F should help with the mouthfeel as well and I'd use 1968 for a yeast strain as it doesn't seem to attenuate out as much as other ale yeasts.
     
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  3. dmamiano

    dmamiano Initiate (0) Nov 18, 2005 West Virginia

    Grain billl looks pretty good.
    Higher mash temps give beer more body not lower? I would mash at 152 or so.
    The higher the mash temp the more unfermentable sugars are extracted from the grain.
     
  4. antlerwrestler19

    antlerwrestler19 Initiate (0) Nov 24, 2010 Nebraska

    Not sure why or how I mixed that up. Thank you for correcting me - I seem to be losing it.
     
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  5. strictly4DK

    strictly4DK Initiate (0) Mar 26, 2009 Pennsylvania

    Maybe try 1/2 or 1 lb of flaked oats for protein contribution to the body. I've never seen an APA with oats so me thinks I have a recipe in mind for the long weekend.
     
  6. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    An APA bill can always look good until you add your hops. Under hop it and it's too sweet and too one-dimensional. Over hopped and it's perceivably too dry too thin and not malty enough. Do you have a hop schedule yet? I've found that more oz of low AA hops can really give you a creamy head. Just make sure you add in a high AA hop for a FWH or bittering addition.

    I think you'll get a lot out of your MO and you can just mash high (156F). I like to add a second variety of crystal to the bill, but lots of people think that's overkill. If you do that, back down the 40 by about half and think about adding some 60. I'd hold off on adding flaked grain to the grist until next time. See how this goes for you and adjust accordingly.
     
  7. MLucky

    MLucky Initiate (0) Jul 31, 2010 California

    You could add maltodextrin--lots of people do in order to improve mouthfeel of lower gravity beers.
     
  8. Jefeipa

    Jefeipa Initiate (0) May 6, 2009 Arizona

    How much maltodextrin should I add? I can't remember what hops I have in the freezer. I think oz of cennential, simcoe, and one another hop maybe Amarillo and .25 of sorachi ace and citra.
     
  9. MLucky

    MLucky Initiate (0) Jul 31, 2010 California

    It's been a while, I'd have to look it up, but I think something like 4-8 oz is typical.
     
  10. mnstorm99

    mnstorm99 Initiate (0) May 11, 2007 Minnesota

    I would keep the recipe "as is" and mash at 152° (looks like a very good APA to me).

    Personally, I think it looks like what your going for and I wouldn't mess around with it too much. This recipe has 9% crystal so I wouldn't add any more to it. Also, I wouldn't play with maltodextrine or oats until you understand your own tastes and recipe formulation.
     
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  11. Tebuken

    Tebuken Initiate (0) Jun 6, 2009 Argentina

    I think a 4-5% flaked oats would get the creamy body you desire ,besides it won´t be noticeable in beer flavor.
    You can combine a 50% Total IBUS from the early hops addition and the 50% leftover from late hops addition to achieve a creamy-hoppy-aromatic beer.As others said above i would mash at 152-154 F.
     
  12. Jefeipa

    Jefeipa Initiate (0) May 6, 2009 Arizona

    I'm just going with my original recipe. Now I'm trying to figure out the hop schedule. I have 2oz of Amarillo, 1 citra, 1 centennial, and 1 simcoe. I was thinking
    Centennial @ 60
    simcoe @5
    Amarillo and citra @ flameout
    Amarillo dry hop maybe get another citra too
     
  13. Jefeipa

    Jefeipa Initiate (0) May 6, 2009 Arizona

    Maybe .5 of centennial at @60 and move the other half to flameout or dry hop
     
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