First bottle carbonation ?

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  1. Brewday

    Brewday Zealot (721) Dec 25, 2015 New York

    Opened my first bottled brew. Why would my first glass pour have more carbonation then the second glass. I turned the bottle upside down before opening to make sure it was mixed good. This was done with corn sugar,not CO2.
     
  2. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Are these two bottles or two pours from the same bottle?
     
  3. Brewday

    Brewday Zealot (721) Dec 25, 2015 New York

    Two pours from 1 750 ml bottle.
     
  4. Mullen2525

    Mullen2525 Zealot (627) Dec 9, 2012 Massachusetts

    How much time lapsed between pours? Once you crack the cap the bottle is no longer under pressure so the dissoved C02 will slowly come out of solution. As the beer warms, this speeds up as well. Also if there a nucleation sites in the bottle via sediment or imperfections in the glass it will happen even more quickly.
     
  5. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    Why were you wanting to mix the bottle (I assume the sediment)?
    Since you used a 750 ml bottle, were you expecting an elevated carbonation level?
     
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  6. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Pooh-Bah (2,559) Mar 28, 2009 California
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    I am with mothergoose why did you want it mixed up? Tipping the bottle probably caused the extra carbonation on the first pour. Just like shaking a soda or a commercial beer. By tipping the beer upside down you agitated the beer causing CO2 to dispense, so the first pour probably had more carbonation than it should have and as a result the following pours had less.

    If you bottle condition leave the yeast on the bottom. When I bottle condition I usually leave the last 2 sips in the bottom to avoid pouring the yeast in my glass.
     
  7. scottakelly

    scottakelly Maven (1,487) May 9, 2007 Ohio

    Dont mix up the beer! I don't even like to do that with hefes. Just gently pour off the yeast sediment on the bottom.
     
  8. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    Two things;
    1) Was it a lack of carbonation or a lack of head?
    No reason for any diff in carb on a 2nd pour.
    2) The lees are loaded with rich B-vitamins so there's no harm mixing them into the beer other than it always* destroys clarity and flavor.
    3) Table sugar carbs almost as well ** as corn sugar and cost far less.

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    * Hefe etc excepted
    ** 5% less
     
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  9. Brewday

    Brewday Zealot (721) Dec 25, 2015 New York

    Thanks for the replies. The pours were about 10 mins apart so i was a little surprised how much the carbonation changed. I turned the bottle upside down thinking the sediment would change something. I'm a newbie and wasn't sure what to expect from the corn sugar. It's a Marzen so i didn't want much carb anyways.
     
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  10. MostlyNorwegian

    MostlyNorwegian Pooh-Bah (2,236) Feb 5, 2013 Illinois
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    Every kid should know the shaken can of soda trick.
    The c02 gets released out of solution whenever you agitate the bottle. It is also trapped by the crown still. So eventually it'll fall back in. Assuming your fill level was correct on that 750. That's enough room for plenty of c02 to come out of solution into. The minute you pry it off and allow them an open environment to be free in. Out they go. Since you also agitated the bottle before opening it.
    Advantage c02.
     
  11. Mullen2525

    Mullen2525 Zealot (627) Dec 9, 2012 Massachusetts

    Nothing wrong with making mistakes.

    handle more gently next time and you'll probably notice a difference.
     
  12. frothy_80

    frothy_80 Initiate (0) May 19, 2013 Missouri

    How long was the bottle in the refrigerator? After the beer is fully carbed allow the beer to sit in the refrigerator for a week to allow the CO2 to fully absorb into solution.
     
  13. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Chilling doesn't increase dissolved CO2 concentration in a sealed bottle that's already at equilibrium between beer and headspace.
     
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