First brew - Equipment selection

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  1. Meisterlols

    Meisterlols Initiate (0) Aug 10, 2013 Pennsylvania

    Hello all,

    I have spent some time developing a list of equipment I intend to use for brewing my first five gallon batch (which I don't intend to brew more than five gallons for awhile). A couple of books are on the way to get me started on ingredient selection, I would like to try a to craft a pale ale, but I would like to make all relevant decisions on the choice of my gear before those texts get to me so I can spend all my time learning styles and ingredients.

    So, my budget is flexible somewhat, looking to spend up to around $400.00-500.00. I do not really want to buy a 'starter set' I would rather know every part of my setup and purchase it myself. Ill try to list in order of use I suppose, so here is what I am thinking so far:

    My kettle choice is modest, 6 gallon, stainless steel Bayou classic. http://www.bayouclassiccooking.com/24qt-stockpot--lid-no-bask24.html 6 gallon capacity should suit me fine I would think, it is just a standard kettle without anything fancy, and its affordable.

    Heat source. I do not want to go stove top or propane. I want to go electric. http://www.amazon.com/Broil-King-CS...343&sr=8-2&keywords=1500+watt+electric+burner It is 1500W, which after a little calculating and assuming somewhere between 75%-100% heat transfer efficiency, should bring five gallons of water from room temperature (70 degrees F) to a boil between somewhere between a little over an hour to two hours. From what I read, slowly bringing just the water to a boil should not effect the brewing process.

    Cooling. There is quite the price range for wort coolers. I have suitable skill that I could confidentially make my own. I have a setup imagined that would use a bucket of ice water with one hose coming from the wort cooler directly into the ice water, and a cane siphon as well in the ice water bucket attached to the other wort cooler hose that should enable me to cycle ice water through the system and cool efficiently. Is making your own a good choice? Is that a worthwhile setup? If the answer is no to either of those questions, which should I get and or what would a better setup be?

    Fermentation. Do not want to use plastic, so have to go glass carboys http://www.midwestsupplies.com/6-gallon-glass-carboy-bundle.html. Although I am unsure if it would be more beneficial to get a 6 or 6.5 gallon. I am going to get two of them to have a secondary fermentation vessel. Will need drilled rubber stoppers, http://www.midwestsupplies.com/rubber-stoppers-drilled.html airlocks, 3 piece for primary http://www.midwestsupplies.com/airlock-3-piece-type.html s-type for secondary http://www.midwestsupplies.com/airlock-s-bubble-type.html

    Racking cane. Here I am a little in the dark and do not have all the kinks figured out. I understand the importance of sanitation, so I will need a cane, hose, and I would imagine fittings for air-tightness. I will have the stoppers off of the carboys and of course the kettle will not have a top on when siphoning, so what diameter of cane is the best choice? 1/2", 3/8" 5/16"? Stainless steel should be an obvious choice over plastic right? The carboy I get will only be around 20" tall so 24" cane will be sufficient, http://www.midwestsupplies.com/stainless-steel-racking-cane-24.html tubing, http://www.midwestsupplies.com/tubing-7411.html

    Bottling. I have the bottles covered. I live in Pennsylvania, so I intend to purchase two cases of Straub Lager in the returnable bottles (but never return them!). The cases are sturdy and the bottles are acceptable. What I am up in the air about is the right way to get the beer in the bottle and cap it. Again there is a wide range of selections and combinations. I will need a different type of siphoning system than what would be used to rack right? Any pointing in the right direction here is appreciated. I understand it that another vessel is needed to put the beer in before bottling, here I do not think a plastic bucket would have any consequence since it should only be holding the beer for a short time.

    Cleaning supplies. I did not want to start off with this since I am unfamiliar with any aspect of bio sanitation. I of course will need to clean my equipment, but also I have a large slop sink that will be in the brewing area that I would like to sanitize every time, as well I will be on a tile floor that I would like to sanitize. In the meat department at the local grocery I have noticed them using a water based solution that they put over everything and wipe off. What would that be? What is the best thing to use? Are several different cleaning agents needed for the different jobs? I think I am going to buy one of them carboy cleaners as well, or is that a waste of money?

    I still need to do much research to find the little things I am unaware of. I know I will need a hydrometer and a thermometer, is there much difference in quality between the lower and higher priced? Or is a hydrometer pretty much a hydrometer?


    That is pretty much all I have on my mind at the moment. I am sure I am still missing much.



    Any help or insight is invited and will be greatly appreciated!
     
  2. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Grand Pooh-Bah (3,452) May 21, 2010 Texas
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    You're over-thinking some things, and under-thinking others. But at least you're thinking! You've obviously put some thought into this, so bravo. Here's my initial thoughts:


    • make sure one of your books is how to brew.
    • 6 gallons too small for a boil pot. Go bigger, at least 7.5 gallons.
    • If you want to brew inside, go for it, but make sure you can get a good rolling boil with the lid off..
    • A turkey fryer setup has a big pot and a burner that will boil that much liquid easily, which is why a fair number of us (including me) have used turkey fryers for brewing.
    • You need an auto-siphon. cheep plastic, makes it much easier when you have to transfer wort or bottle. Racking canes do work, but once you've used an auto-siphon, you won't go back.
    • plastic works fine. you don't need all glass carboys to brew. For most beers, a plastic bucket will work. Only for extended aging is glass required. Glass is harder to clean (a lot), and can be very hazardous if you break a carboy. Plastic is easy to clean and won't cut open an artery if you drop it when it's full.
    • in order to keep two batches going at once, you need two fermenters (plastic or glass) and a third (carboy or bucket) for bottling. I have two buckets (one 6.5 gallon, one 8 gallon) and one glass carboy (5 gallon), plus a 3 gallon better bottle, and a Mr Beer Keg. This is plenty of fermentation volume for a 5 gallon system, at least for me (I don't brew anything too overly fancy). I rarely use the better bottle, and make experimental batches with the Mr Beer keg.
    • if you still decide to go all glass carboys, get two 6.5 gallons, plus a bottling bucket/carboy (any bucket, or a five gallon carboy is ok for bottling, and the stuff for a blowoff tube for each, and the carboy cleaning brush.
    • my 8 gallon fermentation bucket is awesome. it's shorter than a 6.5 gallon, but holds more, and is less likely to need a blowoff tube for a 5 or 5.5 gallon batch. Unfortunately, I haven't seen them available all the time, it's more sporadic. But keep that in mind, the 8 gallon buckets are worth looking for.
    • get more than one gravitometer. They break easily, but they're cheep.
    • get some campden tablets if you're not sure whether your water has chloramines in it.
    • get the more expensive bottle capper
    • for cleaning, you can use oxyclean, or PBW. Sometimes a dilute bleach solution is appropriate too. I keep oxyclean and bleach handy (but don't use the bleach except for once in a while, and only a capful at that).
    • for sanitation, get starsan. Don't fear the foam.
    • bottles: I clean them with HOT water, then dry upside-down until COMPLETELY dry, then cover with a square of tinfoil. Any bottles that require a brush to remove the debris from the inside are rejected and sent to the recycle bin.
    • "starter kits" are not bad, in fact you may pay less for the same list of items if it comes in a kit than you would if you ordered them separately. Just keep that in mind while shopping.
    • a really big strainer with a long handle is helpful. I bought one at the homebrew store which was rather expensive (over $20) but has proven itself worth the price.
    • having more than one thermometer can be helpful, especially if you batteries die on your electric thermometer. This happened to me once, and the only thing that saved me was that the turkey fryer came with a thermometer (which os surprisingly accurate when compared to the electric brewing thermometer that I bought, even tho you wouldn't think it to be so).
    Now here's another thing, with a budget as big as yours, you could easily go straight to an all grain equipment setup. I have a buddy who's getting into brewing, wants to do things right, and is going this route. He'll probably never brew an extract batch of beer, instead starting out with all grain. The keys to this route? Knowledge is #1, having someone who knows what they are doing who can help you is #2, and both are important (tho having done your homework is most important).

    Basically, to start off all grain, you need a starter kit with two buckets and a carboy, with the usual accessories, plus a mash tun (which is a cooler with a bazooka tube and some hardware, available at home depot or online, the design of which is extremely flexible*), a burner that will boil 7+ gallons of wort, and a boil pot big enough to do full boils (7+ gallons, boiling, again, a turkey fryer pot is sufficiently large, a six gallon pot is too small), and a wort chiller/pre-chiller setup.

    You may also need fermentation temperature control, depending where you live, and what times of year you intend to brew. If you live in a cold place, well, you'll have to keep your beer warm. More likely is that you live in a hot place and you'll need to keep your beer cool far more than you'll need to warm it up. A steady ambient room temperature of 68F is about the upper limit of acceptable temperatures for brewing ales (IMO). I used to keep the fermenters in a closet that was a very steady 68F, and this resulted in tasty beer. Keep in mind that an ambient room temperature of 68F does not mean that you beer is 68F. Fermentation is exothermic, and your beer could be considerably warmer than that (and will be when fermentation is most active). Fermenting too hot is a sure-fired recipe for drainpour ale.

    Now, because I'm in texas, and there's no reasonable way to keep my house at 68F during the summer, I bought a chest freezer, and got a Johnson controller for it. This is my fermentation chamber, and it keeps my beers at an ambient room temperature (inside the freezer) of 62-64F. Tasty beer. I actually have two freezer/controller setups, one of which will fit two buckets (tho one has to be the shorter 8 gallon bucket), and the other which will only fit a double-batch sized bucket (13 gallons, I think it is). So consider shape and volume of buckets and carboys if you go this route. There are other ways to keep your beer cool without this investment, but if your ambient room temperature is a lot higher than optimum fermentation temps, these methods may become more effort than they're worth.
    Bottom line on temperature: if you ferment in a room that's pushing 80 degrees or higher, you won't be setting yourself up for success. Even mid seventies is too warm. This is important. The primary things that lead a beginner to tasty beer are probably sanitation, pitching temperature, and fermentation temperature control.

    On pitching temperature, you need a wort chiller, obvious. Stainless or copper, don't matter much which one you prefer. Now I built a smaller coil out of copper which is a pre-chiller to the wort chiller. I run the tap water till the wort gets to about 130F, then drop that pre-chiller into a bucket of ice. This gets my wort below 70F in under 20 minutes (can be even faster, if I have enough ice and pre-chill in ice the entire time). You need the wort below 70 before you pitch your yeast. Equip yourself accordingly.

    *it is possible to make a mash tun from a 5 gallon cylindrical water cooler. this is what I currently use. the drawback is that you're limited to about 13 pounds of grain with a 1.25 q/lb water to grain ratio. That's five gallons of about 1.065 OG beer going into the fermentation bucket (on my system). If I want to brew anything stronger, I either have to pull off some mashing tricks (ok for slightly more than 13 pounds grain), or reduce the batch size (necessary for big stouts, basically anything 9% and up). Since I don't make these beers much, it's no biggie. But you may want to get a ten gallon cooler instead of a five gallon cooler. Shape of the cooler isn't an issue, rectangular ones work as well as round ones for batch sparging.

    Think about it some more, and don't be in a rush to buy. Your first batch will take at least a month to be finished, so rushing things isn't a very viable strategy.
     
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  3. ipas-for-life

    ipas-for-life Savant (1,041) Feb 28, 2012 Virginia

    A lot of good info from alcaponejr. He basically covered everything. Here is what I would add.

    I use a 10 gallon kettle for 5 gallon batches and wish I had a little more space sometimes. So 10 would be a minimum for me.

    1 to 2 hours to bring your water to boil seems long. If you are brewing extract expect at least a 3 hour brew day if not more. For all grain it is about double. And that would be assuming you can get your water to a boil in 20-30 minutes. I would find a better way.

    With the wort chiller. You can easily make your own. I am not good with tools and was able to make one. Get 20-25 feet of 1/2 inch copper, 3 qty ring clamps, one female hose end, 10 ft of 5/8 inch rubber tubing with the thicker outer diameter. You will find everything in the pluming section except for the hose end which will be with the hoses and garden equipment. Also consider getting a pipe bender if you want to make sure you get no kinks. Around $60 for a better wort chiller than you will find online.

    If you want to recirculate the chilling water get one these.
    http://www.amazon.com/Superior-Pump...?s=kitchen-bath&ie=UTF8&qid=1376232689&sr=1-1
    Its best to run the chiller off of ground water until you hit around 100 degrees and then switch to the pump and ice water. Otherwise you will have to use a lot more ice.

    Sounds like you are doing your homework first before jumping in which will make things easier. Even then more than likely your first brew day will seem a little hectic. But it will get much easier as you dial in your process. In the end with good sanitation and preparation you should be able to make some good beer. Have fun and good luck.
     
  4. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    OP - if you want to go electric, investigate a "heat stick". That usually requires a pump to circulate the wort through.
     
  5. JohnSnowNW

    JohnSnowNW Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 Minnesota

    I will add just a few notes here, as AlCapone's response was incredibly detailed.

    • I do not ferment in a bucket anymore, I do not like them as they are rarely air-tight, and I like being able to see my beer without opening the fermenter
    • I use both glass carboys and better bottles as my fermenters, 5 gallon glass and 6 gallon better bottle. The 5 gallon size is good for secondary, as you don't want a lot of head space if you're going to age it.
    • I find the glass carboys easier to clean, as krausen tends to stick to plastic better than glass...and I'm always being careful not to scratch the plastic...where glass doesn't matter.
    • If you do go glass, you have to be very careful...many, many people have been seriously injured by broken carboys.
    • Use an auto-siphon
    • If you use a glass carboy, purchase some 1" tubing to use as a blow-off...in place of an air-lock during primary.
    • Purchase a bottle tree http://www.midwestsupplies.com/45-bottle-drying-tree.html and bottle rinser http://www.midwestsupplies.com/bottle-rinser-sulfiter.html as it will save you a ton of time.
     
  6. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    :grimacing: Impressive list!

    OP:

    The one thing I'll add is that you won't need to do much cleaning on your equipment if it's new. Mild soap and water will do wonderful for this stuff. Rinse well. On brew day you need to worry about sanitation. This is the process of taking your clean equipment and going the extra step to make sure that it has as few microbes on it as possible. Any no rinse sanitizer is GOLD. Iodophor or Star San is probably what most of us use. It's flavorless (when mixed correctly). This process will be for ANYTHING your beer touches AFTER you're done with the boil. A short list:

    Fermenter
    Fermenter lid
    Fermenter grommet
    Air Lock
    Brew Spoon

    Later:

    All bottling equipment
    All bottles --After delabeling and cleaining.

    You'll want to start out paranoid here and you will learn where you can cut corners later. Your best friend is a good sanitizer in a spray bottle. :slight_smile:
     
  7. sjverla

    sjverla Initiate (0) Dec 1, 2008 Massachusetts

    That's a lot of preparation, which is smart. Before I started brewing I'd already finished a couple books. I'm new at this still, but one thing I can tell you is that even though a long lag to get to boiling doesn't affect the process, it does affect your day. Brewing is a long process with a lot of down time. If it were me, I wouldn't want to have to budget an extra 1-2 hours just to start. Currently it takes about 45 minutes for me to get 6.5 gallons of wort to a boil. I'd prefer that to be under 30. I'm fine with taking it slow on brew day, but don't be surprised if a couple batches in you're wishing you got to boiling faster.

    It's now 4:20 EDT. I started heating my strike water at 12:05. My chiller's been running about 20 minutes now and I'm down to 90. I don't have a fancy pre-chiller like AlC, but that just got bumped to the top of the list.

    TL;DR - if you have a way to speed up temperature changes (heating or cooling) do it. It's the least rewarding part of a brew day.
     
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  8. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Grand Pooh-Bah (3,452) May 21, 2010 Texas
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    One note about my fermentation: I don't even live where the beer ferments, so I don't care if I can see it. My brother doesn't check it either, we both leave it alone till dry hopping or bottling. So on that note, buckets work for me.

    Also, if you ferment inside a freezer like I do, the freezer itself fills with CO2 as the beer ferments, as does the bucket. You can verify this by attempting to check the temperature strips using a lighter (it won't stay lit). Thus, I surmise that using a fermentation freezer lessens any effects that oxygen might have on the beer, given the permeability of plastic to oxygen. I am unconcerned with it (however, for any extended aging, I would still use glass). CO2 is heavier than air, so if you don't disturb it too much, you can pop the lid to add dry hops without losing much of your CO2 blanket, and without exposing your wort to much O2. These are mainly musings to entertain myself, and shouldn't necessarily sway anyone towards plastic over glass. OP: you'll have to decide for yourself based on the evidence*. You can always add more pieces to your equipment collection later, so don't over-think it! You WILL add more pieces as you go anyway.

    Bottling tree = SUPER HANDY.

    Milk crates are good for transporting carboys. You can get a handle for carboys too, but if you pick up a full carboy by this handle, it could break the neck. Thus you still need support underneath the carboy (although the handles do help out a lot).

    Blow-up, err, blow-off tube, check. Blowoff tubes may be necessary for plastic buckets too. However, an eight gallon plastic bucket usually won't require a blowoff tube for five gallon batches. I don't generally have a problem with the 6.5 gallon size either, but I've come close to a blow-up once, so don't think that 6.5 gallons is automatically not going to asplode on you. Know how to set up blowoff tubes, and have the parts you need handy.

    *making decisions based on actual evidence, rather than hyperbole, testimonials and anecdote? Truly a novel idea in today's internet based world. :rolling_eyes:
     
  9. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Grand Pooh-Bah (3,452) May 21, 2010 Texas
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    Any decent length of copper or stainless that you can get into a cooler of ice will work. My pre-chiller really isn't fancy at all, it's actually even slightly fugly. It's about 1/3 of the length of my wort chiller, and is bent into four coils of approximately 9" diameter. This fits into a five gallon bucket which I fill with ice (they do make styrofoam cooler inserts for five gallon buckets, which I also use, but it wouldn't really matter much). It's attached inline before my wort chiller via plastic tubing and hose clamps. Not fancy, not expensive, but cuts cooling time from well over an hour to about 20 minutes, if you have enough ice*.

    You could theoretically insert this pre-chiller of mine into any cooler and it would work, as long as the cooler had ice in it. :rolling_eyes:

    *for a day of drinking beer plus making beer, keeping your beers on ice, and transferring most of the ice to the bucket near the end of the brew day, 20 lbs of ice is enough, but 10 lbs is not enough
     
  10. JohnSnowNW

    JohnSnowNW Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 Minnesota


    Oh yeah, buckets will work fine for anyone...they are a lot easier to clean...for instance. I just enjoy looking at the beer from time to time, to see how it's coming along. I also like having the ability to completely seal the fermenter...not that is matters a great deal during primary. Strictly a personal preference. I also ferment in a chest freezer, and there have been many times when I stick my head in there, to take a closer look at the thermometers, and my eyes immediately start burning. Quite a bit of CO2 hanging out near the top.
     
  11. Meisterlols

    Meisterlols Initiate (0) Aug 10, 2013 Pennsylvania

    Hey guys,


    Thanks so much for the replies. It will take me some time to get a response around to all the great info you all have provided. The work week is not kind to such things. My books came today, and yes AlCaponeJunior, I am reading How to Brew. I will be doing some reading and getting some questions around, I am very excited.


    Thanks.
     
  12. sjverla

    sjverla Initiate (0) Dec 1, 2008 Massachusetts

    Seems like as good a thread as any -

    Does anyone know if buckets are light-permeable? I've been having a hard time keeping it below 70 in my closet, but it's now cruising at 65 in the middle of the floor with a fan on it and some ice in the swamp cooler. I feel like I read that inchrisin doesn't worry about light because of fermenting in buckets. It makes sense that between the bucket and a dark t-shirt, it should be fine, but it's just strange to me.
     
  13. Meisterlols

    Meisterlols Initiate (0) Aug 10, 2013 Pennsylvania

    Ok, gonna try to do this organized by reply. I won't go through and comment on every line.

    2) AlCaponeJunior

    As I said in my last post How to Brew will be one of my texts. However I will be reading the online version, I decided that 15 bucks for a few revisions was not necessary, and that since brewing has essentially been around since civilization developed, not much could have changed in three editions.

    Most all of your bullet points are excellent advice that would likely have taken trial and error to discover, thanks.

    I am a little iffy about using a diluted bleach solution. Oxyclean is pretty solid then? Definitely will be picking up some PBW and starsan. A little excited to see the meaning behind your Don't fear the foam comment.

    I am going to be doing some reading about starting with an all grain setup. However from my meager knowledge of it now it seemed to be a pretty needy process, I would only be able to give something daily attention before I leave for work at 7:30am or in my free time between 6:00 and 11:00pm. With your comment on having someone who knows what they are doing, the community in this forum seems pretty excellent and inviting, but I know no one in person who brews beer at any level, let alone a high one.

    Being in Pennsylvania, as soon as the outside temp drops below 60F I will have no problem. The place I will be brewing in used to be a flower shop, so there is a nicely sized insulated cooler I will be able to place a small heater and keep the temp wherever I wish.

    On the wort cooler, I have confidence I will be able to get a setup that will cool down my wort around the 20 minute mark you provided. What is a pre-chiller though? something that you cycle warmer water through first before going to cold water? Will it shock my wort or something if I start off ice cold?

    Thanks for all the great info.



    3) ipas-for-life

    A ten gallon boil pot is starting to push it, I will only be brewing 5 gallon batches for the foreseeable future, and I would have to consider a new heating setup if I go that big I think.

    I have no reservations about the time it takes me to brew a batch. I have more than enough things to keep me occupied waiting on the next step.

    I do plan on making my own wort cooler, however I have already considered the idea of using an actual pump to cycle, 50 bucks is just too much for my budget, especially if I go all grain. I may use gravity, or some type of cheap hand pump, or something I haven't considered.

    Thanks for the luck!



    4) hopefenumaltz

    I will investigate, although at first glance it seems to be some effort.



    5) JohnSnowNW

    Yes, I am very swayed in the direction of fermenting in a glass carboy. I plan on covering it with a dark sheet though.

    Cleaning a glass carboy over plastic is one of the reasons I like the glass carboy so much. The comfort of knowing your glass carboy does not have scratches, and being able to see any dirt spots is very attractive.

    Again with the auto-siphon. Definitely will be on my purchase list.

    Thank you for the point toward the bottle tree and the rinser, again will definitely be on my purchase list.

    6) inchrisin

    Thanks!

    I am well aware of the importance of sanitation and will not be shy with the cleaning.

    7) sjveria

    Preparation is key, its senseless not to. Again on brew day I will be in no hurry. Great things take time.

    8) AlCaponeJunior

    Milk crates for carrying carboys is a great idea!

    It seems blow-off tubes are not always necessary. The way I understand it (which its pretty much in the name) is that it is most simply a corked tube that prevents the lid, or airlock, from blowing off or breaking when there is too much pressure in the vessel. The 'cork' pops off and releases the pressure preventing damage. However wouldn't this stale the batch? letting oxygen and other bad stuff into the vessel? As well how would you use one with a glass carboy that has an airlock on it? Or is the airlock the blow-off tube?

    9) AlCaponeJunior

    Again, my first reply to you questions the function and setup of a pre-chiller.

    10) JohnSnowNW

    My above replies fit into the discussion of this reply

    11) Meisterlols

    12) sjveria

    No thread hijacking!






    thanks guys.
     
  14. Meisterlols

    Meisterlols Initiate (0) Aug 10, 2013 Pennsylvania

    Oh, as well seeing that campden tablet post, when are these appropriate and what can I do to test my water to see if I need them? I will be using good ole' Tulpehocken spring water from half gallon plastic jugs.
     
  15. Meisterlols

    Meisterlols Initiate (0) Aug 10, 2013 Pennsylvania

    One more thing! I am starting to sway in the direction of a turkey frying setup, something like this http://www.bayouclassiccooking.com/turkeyfryerkit.html

    The only thing I am concerned with is the outside brewing, I really feel like I need to be inside. Could anyone give me some insights on the challenges or pros and cons of brewing outside and inside? I am starting to doubt an electric burner, but it is clean and requires no propane.
     
  16. ciaran987

    ciaran987 Initiate (0) Oct 5, 2008 Massachusetts

    A blow off tube is just that, a tube that fits into the hole in your fermentor. One end in the fermentor, the other end in a bucket of water. Basically a giant airlock. The first few days the yeast will be very active and will rise accordingly. The tube allows all the excess gas an krausen to leave easily and the water keeps it airtight. When it calms down you can put your regular airlock back on. Youtube is your friend.
     
  17. Meisterlols

    Meisterlols Initiate (0) Aug 10, 2013 Pennsylvania

    So in what situations would just a regular airlock not be sufficient? Or is it standard practice to always use a blow-off tube then airlock?
     
  18. Meisterlols

    Meisterlols Initiate (0) Aug 10, 2013 Pennsylvania

    Also what is thought about using a FastRack instead of a bottling tree?

    http://www.midwestsupplies.com/fastrack-combo-2-racks-with-1-tray.html

    Round the same price as a 90 bottle tree which I heard the tiers are removable.

    http://www.midwestsupplies.com/90-bottle-drying-tree-with-rotating-base.html

    Also why would they sell 45 bottle trees and not 48???

    http://www.midwestsupplies.com/45-bottle-drying-tree.html

    As I said before I will only be doing 5 gallon batches, putting me at a 48 bottle yield.
     
  19. Meisterlols

    Meisterlols Initiate (0) Aug 10, 2013 Pennsylvania

  20. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    These questions come up a lot'round here.
    Have you searched the BA archives?
    Lotsa good stuff to be had.
     
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