First extract brew questions

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  1. crcostel

    crcostel Initiate (0) Feb 26, 2006 Illinois

    I am doing my first brew this weekend (NBs White House Honey Ale 1Gallon) and a few questions

    1) Some of the steeping grains are crushed pretty fine. Is this typical? Will it gum up the mesh bag so the rest of the grains don't steep in the water?

    2) The kit was supposed to come with Danstar Windsor but instead has S-04. They seem somewhat similar but are they interchangable in this application?

    Sure to have more later but these popped up right away.

    Thanks everyone!
     
  2. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Pooh-Bah (2,559) Mar 28, 2009 California
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    1) no it won't gum up anything. Gumming up only matters if it causes the mash to get stuck when trying to filter the liquid out of the grains. I imagine the amount of grains is so minimal for a 1 gallon extract batch you just got a higher ratio of powder.

    2) never used Windsor but both are an English strain so I wouldn't worry. If you take care of the fermentation you'll be fine.
     
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  3. scottakelly

    scottakelly Maven (1,487) May 9, 2007 Ohio

    1. Just don't tie the grain bag too tight and you'll be fine

    2. S-04 is a good yeast strain. Not quite as "English" in character, but just to a slight degree. Its a good substitute.
     
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  4. DrMindbender

    DrMindbender Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2014 South Carolina

    I find 04 to be the perfect balance of English ale yeast for me. Windsor doesn't like to attenuate well from my experience, and leaves a sweeter beer than I like.
     
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  5. crcostel

    crcostel Initiate (0) Feb 26, 2006 Illinois

    First brewing begun - some issues.

    1) The mesh bag had a small hole in it, so I fished out as many of the grains as I could - I didn't miss much

    2) After the cool I couldn't get the auto-siphon to work. Not sure what happened but I'll have to figure it out for bottling. I ended up sanitizing a colander and mesh strainer and pouring the wort through. I'm *hoping* that this was an okay improvisation and that I aerated it to boot.

    Thoughts?
     
  6. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Yes, that's okay.
     
  7. DrMindbender

    DrMindbender Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2014 South Carolina

    1. Most grains will fall out of suspension after fermentation if anything made it that far...cold crashing before bottling should help that as well.

    2. No need to use a siphon to put your beer in a fermenter...use a large brewing funnel if you're using a narrow necked fermenter or just go from kettle straight into a bucket if its wide mouthed enough or a bucket.
     
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  8. DrMindbender

    DrMindbender Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2014 South Carolina

    Do yourself a favor and buy a BIAB grain bag (reusable) to steep/mash your grains and save the headache of using the crappy disposable ones!
     
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  9. DrMindbender

    DrMindbender Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2014 South Carolina

    http://www.northernbrewer.com/biab-brew-in-a-bag-all-grain-starter-kit

    This is a great set of equipment to have for extract brewing and provides a super easy transition to all grain brewing with nothing more than what you already use for brewing...even includes a 3 gallon kit to try out simplified all grain brewing! I personally brew a lot of BIAB batches because of how easy it is and the better quality versus extract.
     
  10. crcostel

    crcostel Initiate (0) Feb 26, 2006 Illinois

    BIAB sounds good, but I think I am stuck with 1G for the time being due to space constraints. I think my better half would kill me if I got a 3G fermenter and large kettle. I am more likely to convert to all grain 1 G recipes ala Brooklyn Beer etc
     
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  11. crcostel

    crcostel Initiate (0) Feb 26, 2006 Illinois

    New issue: On Day 2 (day after pitch) I came home from work to find the Little Big Mouth lid was loose. I retightened the lid but the airlock is only bubbling about once a minute now and there is a ring of (foam?) above the wart line. Anyone have any idea whats going on or if something went wrong?
     
  12. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Sounds like a normal fermentation. And bubble counts are not a good quantitative indicator of activity. The ring is most likely a krausen ring that's left after the krausen falls (as fermentation starts to wind down). One day after pitching is generally a bit soon for that though. What's the temperature of your wort?

    Regarding the loose lid (and the O2 that got in as a result), it's not ideal, but it probably didn't ruin your beer.
     
  13. crcostel

    crcostel Initiate (0) Feb 26, 2006 Illinois

    The wort has been kept at about 68deg since pitching
     
  14. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    Everything that you describe sounds like fermentation is done. Since you have only a 1-gallon batch, you need to be judicial in stealing samples for hydrometer readings to test to see for sure that it is done, or you wan't have much beer left after a couple of readings. (Do you have a hydrometer, or are you planning to use the time-in-fermentor method?) For now, I'd just sit tight and let fermentation completely finish up.
     
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  15. crcostel

    crcostel Initiate (0) Feb 26, 2006 Illinois

    After only 1 day of fermenting that is disturbing.

    I do have a hydrometer but haven't used it yet. My plan is to wait until the weekend and check. I'm wondering if an infection of something killed off the yeast.
     
  16. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    Windsor vs. S04. You won't know how you feel about it until you have tried them each a few times. I prefer Windsor. It has been several years since I used S-04. I believe it may attenuate more, and may be a little cleaner. However, I still get a flavor from S-04 that I do not especially like. Windsor has a more estery profile that I happen to prefer.
     
  17. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    68 room temperature? If so, it will/did get a few degrees warmer than that. High temps accelerate fermentation.
     
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  18. crcostel

    crcostel Initiate (0) Feb 26, 2006 Illinois

    Yes, 68 room temp. The directions said between 60 and 75 so I put it the coolest place I could manage safely. Would it hitting 70 cause it to ferment so quickly? Would the wart be ok or should I pitch it?
     
  19. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    It is unusual but it shouldn't be disturbing to you. You have a 1-gallon batch and maybe you pitched a full envelope/vial of yeast so that the crowd of hungry one-celled wonders handled the task at hand quickly with a rousing party. I think your fermentation is done, and you just need to give the yeast a few days to clean up after themselves. Then you can take a gravity reading to confirm that you are at the recipe's predicted FG.
     
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  20. DrMindbender

    DrMindbender Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2014 South Carolina

    I'm of the opinion to ALWAYS let the batch finish and try the finished beer before ever dumping. Most newbies are overly concerned with minutia when they should just relax and have a homebrew :wink:
     
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