First Florida, now SC, AB fighting positive legislation.

Discussion in 'South Atlantic' started by jivex5k, May 20, 2014.

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  1. jivex5k

    jivex5k Initiate (0) Apr 13, 2011 Florida

    #1 jivex5k, May 20, 2014
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  2. KhakCane

    KhakCane Initiate (0) Apr 15, 2010 North Carolina

    The distributors/wholesalers are complicit in this stuff, too. The involuntary three-tier system provides the backbone for this kind of legislation.
     
    #2 KhakCane, May 21, 2014
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  3. VncentLIFE

    VncentLIFE Initiate (0) Feb 16, 2011 North Carolina

    Without mass amounts of money, I wonder what we can really do. Clearly the only way to kill small, local business is with mass quantities of money. These are going to pop up everywhere.
     
    #3 VncentLIFE, May 21, 2014
  4. jivex5k

    jivex5k Initiate (0) Apr 13, 2011 Florida

    You can stop bills without money by:
    1. Shining a spotlight on the issue
    2. Sharing the news with everyone you know who will care. This is one time where facebook is actually beneficial to life.
    3. Calling your senators and voicing your concerns repeatadly
    4. Staying up to date with the bills. The bill has already passed the house and it's companion is being considered in the senate.

    The bill numbers are S 1230 and H 5153, and are extremely progressive in regards to the craft beer industry. Basically:
    • It will increase the amount of beer that a brewpub can change from 2,000 barrels per year to 500,000 barrels per year so as to accommodate large breweries with restaurants.
    • Like breweries, it will allow for sales to wholesalers and exporters of kegs, cans, and bottles.
    • It will allow bottles and cans to be sold on site. Currently, only bottles are allowed. Although, nobody does this.
    • It keeps the current rules in place for on-site consumption. Meaning, there’s no limit like the Pint Law.
    This will go a long way to attracting new breweries and bolstering existing ones with a brewpub.
    You can see the bills here: http://www.scstatehouse.gov/query.p...557892&result_pos=0&keyval=1201230&numrows=10
    (It also shows H 3512 which seems to be just a definition clarification bill)

    You can track the bills I believe, by using the track button on the right side, but SC is lame and forces you to create a free account which I'm not going to do since I'm not a constituent of SC.

    It's a pain in the ass to stay up to date with this stuff, but it should matter to you if you care enough about how it will affect your lives. This isn't as bad as what they tried to do to FL, they are trying to stop a progressive bill. In our case they inserted a poison pill into something as simple as getting 64oz growlers legalized, we fought it hard, the breweries came out, spotlights were shined on it over and over and we got the fucking bill killed.

    I never thought beer would get me into politics but don't fuck with my fucking beer.
     
    #4 jivex5k, May 21, 2014
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  5. GatorLCA

    GatorLCA Initiate (0) Dec 29, 2012 Florida

    I vote @jivex5k as the officer for BeerAdvocate's Legislative Unit....do I hear a second?
     
    #5 GatorLCA, May 21, 2014
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  6. jrnyc

    jrnyc Grand Pooh-Bah (3,012) Mar 21, 2010 New York
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    Seconded!
     
    #6 jrnyc, May 21, 2014
  7. trh70

    trh70 Initiate (0) Dec 31, 2011 Florida

    #7 trh70, May 22, 2014
  8. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,701) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
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    Damn! That ruined my Shock Top and Cheerios! Honestly, when matters get "legal" and public, true colors cannot hide behind double talk. Bombard the legislators with emails, phone calls, and letters continually. It worked in North Carolina with the Pop the Cap initiative. Good luck.
     
    #8 rgordon, May 23, 2014
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  9. VncentLIFE

    VncentLIFE Initiate (0) Feb 16, 2011 North Carolina

    I will say that it seems progressive legislature is in the cards. First Pop the Cap in NC, now progressive beer legislature in FL, next is upping the ABV cap in Ohio to 21% (already in the works). Im sorry, 12% is a BS cap made back in the day.
     
    #9 VncentLIFE, May 27, 2014
  10. kayakandbeer

    kayakandbeer Zealot (708) Aug 16, 2013 Florida
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    I...I....I...third the motion

    Don't let this get to far SC. or you'll have an ass puckering next few months!
     
    #10 kayakandbeer, May 27, 2014
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  11. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,701) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
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    It was some sort of compromise.
     
    #11 rgordon, May 27, 2014
  12. StuartCarter

    StuartCarter Pundit (922) Apr 25, 2006 Alabama

    you would be surprised how much "several thousand pissed off local citizens" can outweigh money. See the success of Free the Hops in Alabama for example.
     
    #12 StuartCarter, May 27, 2014
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  13. CaptainFleeker

    CaptainFleeker Initiate (0) Aug 27, 2012 Illinois
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    If any SC BA's have the contact names/ph#/emails of those we should contact please post. There were many non-FL BA's that helped us here in FL this past legislative season. We'd like to help you. Let us know and we will.
     
    #13 CaptainFleeker, May 27, 2014
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