First timer here, need some advice

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  1. bbb3000

    bbb3000 Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2013

    It's my first time on this forum and first time brewing so go easy on me :slight_smile:

    I am in the midst of my very first homebrew ever. I am 72 hours into the fermentation process and I am a little worried things might not be going so well. I was very meticulous about sanitizing everything and following instructions. I was hoping for a 'bad smell' or bubbling from the airlock but neither has occurred.

    I opened the lid to the fermenter and I was unsure of what I saw. A lot of gunk was on the walls of the bucket. It made me wonder whether that was the yeast that stuck to the walls of the bucket when i was in the process of moving the bucket from one room to the other at the onset. The top level of the wort was not as foamy as I have seen in pictures online. I scraped the gunk from the side of the walls an dropped it back in the wort. I hope this won't ruin my batch.

    Any suggestions?
     
  2. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    You are likely fine. How much yeast did you pitch? Was it dry? Did you rehydrate? Was it liquid? Did you make a starter? How old was the yeast? What strain? The answers to these questions may help explain the lack of vigor you see in the fermentation. However, the yeast should get the job done, i.e., make alcohol -- it's what they do.

    It's worth noting that the answers to these questions could also impact the quality of the beer, as yeast make off-flavors and fusel alcohol too. If you give some more information about your process (especially with regard to yeast) and some sensory assessment of your finished beer, people here may be able to help you interpret what you are experiencing.

    Edit: And if the beer does turn out to be less than glorious, buck up! It gets better!
     
  3. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    What size is your batch? What was the original gravity reading? Have you taken another reading yet? What you describe sounds like foam from fermentation has collected on the wall of the bucket. You may already be done, although I don't know how you could have missed bubbling from the air lock.
     
  4. NiceFly

    NiceFly Initiate (0) Dec 22, 2011 Tajikistan

    Like the others said a little more info about the recipe is in order, but like Mothergoose03 said it sounds like you are near the end of fermentation.

    The gunk on the walls is how high the krausen was during fermentation. It is a deposit of yeast/protein/hops. Next time just leave it there.

    The best thing for you to do if you are unsure if fermentation has taken place is to take a hydrometer reading. Sanitize a turkey baster or something else to pull a sample out and test it. Go ahead and drink it too but do not put it back in the bucket. It will likely be cloudy with yeast and such since it is probably still fermenting, a good thing.
     
  5. ipas-for-life

    ipas-for-life Savant (1,041) Feb 28, 2012 Virginia

    No airlock activity can be due to a small leak somewhere or not enough liquid in the airlock.

    The only questions I would add is what temp was the wort when you added the yeast? And what temp is it currently fermenting at?
     
  6. bbb3000

    bbb3000 Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2013

    Thanks for all the replies.

    I used the Northern Brewer essential starter kit which included the Danstar Windsor Ale Yeast: http://www.northernbrewer.com/shop/windsor-ale-yeast.html

    It was a dry yeast. I used the entire packet. No rehydration, no starter, nothing else. I forgot to refrigerate the yeast prior to using, so it was sitting out for a month or two. From what I researched online people seemed to think that was ok for this yeast since it was dry and in an airlock bag well before the spoil date.

    The batch is 5 gallons. I did not have a hydrometer so I could not take the OG reading. I just ordered one and will use it next time. The temperature of the room is probably somewhere b/w 68-72F? The temperature of the wort was < 100 degrees when I added the yeast. Probably closer to 90 degrees. I know that was a little on the warmer side but I got tired of waiting for it to cool :slight_smile:

    How can fermentation already be complete after just 2-3 days? I thought it took weeks...

    Given all this additional info, where should I go from here??
     
  7. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    wait a couple weeks and bottle it up.
     
  8. MLeicht

    MLeicht Initiate (0) Jul 9, 2012 New Jersey

    Home Brew stores and other kits want you to wait 2 weeks so that everything ferments out and allows the yeast to do some house cleaning. But once the yeast is done fermenting and cleaned up which varies depending on the yeast the beer is ready to go. The beer might be a little boozy with the yeast at high temperature. One suggestion is if you are looking to brew a lot more than i would suggestion some method of controlling the temperature of the wort and yeast. Controlling the temperature helps you produce cleaner beers and reduces the off flavors from the yeast. Buy a cheap fridge off of craigslist and buy a temperature controller would be a simple way to produce better beer.
     
  9. cmmcdonn

    cmmcdonn Initiate (0) Jun 21, 2009 Virginia

    This. Or at least Google "brewing swamp cooler". Fermentation generates heat, so your beer could have easily been fermenting at 73-77F. I'm sure you'll still enjoy what comes out of the bottle in a few weeks regardless.
     
  10. od_sf

    od_sf Initiate (0) Nov 2, 2010 California


    Given all this additional info, you still haven't told us what your original gravity was, and if you've already taken another reading.
     
  11. bbb3000

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  12. MLeicht

    MLeicht Initiate (0) Jul 9, 2012 New Jersey

    Good, That is the proteins and hop solids stuck to the yeast and rose to the top and stuck to the bucket. With no bubbles on top of the beer you should be done fermenting. sanitize a glass or take a sample and try your beer.
     
  13. FremontBar

    FremontBar Initiate (0) Feb 1, 2013 Arizona

    Well you didn't do things perfectly but being your first batch of beer I think the beer gods will forgive you. The first 2-3 days your fermentation is always going to go crazy and then after it can settle down to the point where it looks like nothing is happening. I still wait the two weeks or so because as far as I know there is still fermentation happening on some level. In the future you do not want to open your fermenter until it is time to bottle. The point of the airlock is to keep air from getting in so by opening the lid and poking a stick in there you are letting in air and other nasties and I guessing you sanitized your spoon or whatever, but no bueno. The shit on the side is just dead yeast and by-product pushed up from when fermentation was all bubbling and going crazy. I'm no master brewer, but to conclude, you probably were fine to begin with, and you are probably still okay, there isn't anything you can do now anyway, so I would just wait another week or so and bottle and then drink it. I know you first batch is always exciting but as long as you follow directions (including temperature where you should pitch your yeast) it is best to not mess with your beer too much and just wait (which is the hard part). Good Luck.
     
  14. JrGtr

    JrGtr Pooh-Bah (1,775) Apr 13, 2006 Massachusetts
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    Basically, the primary, super-active fermentation is done. What is going on now is the finishing part. There are still probably a few points of fermentation going on, plus the yeast are cleaning up after themselves - that is, they are reabsorbing certain compounds and off-flavors that they put out during the main fermentation. It is theoretically possible to have a beer ready to drink in about a week, but not usually recommended.
    The yeast are also currently cooling off and dropping out of solution. Leave it completely alone for another week and a half or 2 weeks, and you will be able to have much clearer beer that if you mess with it now.
     
  15. MLucky

    MLucky Initiate (0) Jul 31, 2010 California

    If you pitch at 90 degrees, fermentation is going to go really quickly. You really want it to be more like 68F for most ales, or even a few degrees below that, one reason being that most yeasts will produce off flavors at the higher end of their temperature range (which is usually considered around 75).

    But what's done is done. If you can, I'd wait till you get hold of the hydrometer before bottling, just to make sure you've reached final gravity, but if not, I'd probably let it sit for a week just to be sure. Then bottle it up and hope for the best. You might have some off flavors, but you never know.
     
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  16. od_sf

    od_sf Initiate (0) Nov 2, 2010 California

    So yeah, you still haven't told us what your original gravity was, and if you've already taken another reading. It would be SO easy to know what's going with your beer if you could tell us this. Why speculate?
     
  17. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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  18. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    Try reading what he's saying. He doesn't own a hydrometer.
     
  19. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    OP:

    Your beer is probably pretty much dome fermenting. You missed it, because you pitched the yeast when the wort was blazing ass hot. You'll have fusels and off flavors, and it'll probably taste shitty if you save a bottle in a couple months and compare it to what you're brewing then.

    That said, it's beer, and it's early in the game of brewing, and you'll probably love it.

    You should have left the trub that was blown on the sides of the bucket. It won't harm the beer to be in there afterwards, but no need to dig around in your fermenter when you don't need to.

    Going forward from here, I'd suggest waiting to get your hydro before you move it. Check the gravity. Write it down. Check in 2 or 3 more days. If it's the same, it's done. Move on to bottling.

    In the future, I'd suggest putting yeast in the fridge, getting your wort temp down to pitching temp. Like.. 60 or 65. Try and control the temp of fermentation under 70, which doesn't mean ambient temp. It'll be hotter in the fermenter during active fermentation. From there, you'll start making better beer. Stay out of the fermenter if you don't need to be in there. Generally, under normal conditions, a week or so the beer should be close to done.. 2 weeks normally for the yeast to clean up and call it a day.

    Oh, and... www.howtobrew.com
     
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  20. od_sf

    od_sf Initiate (0) Nov 2, 2010 California


    So, then, did he take a hydrometer reading?

    :grinning:

    Sorry for missing that.

    :flushed:
     
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