First Timer- What to do, can't boil.

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  1. Neary

    Neary Initiate (0) Jan 31, 2013 Ohio

    I tried boiling about 4 gallons of water before I started my first batch and it boilded fine. After steeping the grains in 2.5 gallons of water, my electric stove top couldn't get it boiling. What are my best $$ for quality options on a burner??
     
  2. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    How long did you wait before you determined your stove couldn't boil 2.5 gallons of thin wort?
     
  3. Neary

    Neary Initiate (0) Jan 31, 2013 Ohio

    A solid couple of hours
     
  4. hopsandmalt

    hopsandmalt Initiate (0) Dec 14, 2006 Michigan

    If you're looking for cheap I would suggest going to Wal-Mart and picking up a turkey fryer. Should be <$60 and you'll get a big ass aluminum pot with it that will get you close to a full boil (But now you're going to need a wort chiller).
     
  5. Eriktheipaman

    Eriktheipaman Pooh-Bah (2,303) Sep 4, 2010 California
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    I've never used one but you could get a heat stick if you'd like to keep using your stove. Also heads up with you pretty much destroy the burner you use if you use it a lot to brew.
     
  6. alanforbeer

    alanforbeer Crusader (455) Jan 29, 2011 South Carolina

    Is your boil kettle large enough that you might be able to straddle two of the coils?

    Otherwise, turkey fryer/ Bayou Classic.
     
  7. utahbeerdude

    utahbeerdude Maven (1,374) May 2, 2006 Utah

    If you have the option to move outside with a propane or NG burner, I highly recommend that you go for it. Two best reasons:
    (1) larger heating rate, and
    (2) much less wear and tear on your stove.
     
  8. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    Does your burner wear out, or is it the metal stove top get damaged? I've put my 15 gal pot on top between two burners before and the worst thing that happened to me was that the white metal surface got charred and I had to scrub like hell to get it back to white.
     
  9. MLucky

    MLucky Initiate (0) Jul 31, 2010 California

    An outdoor propane burner is the way to go, if you have the space. They're not very expensive, really (I think I got mine for about $40) and you'll be damn glad you're outdoors the first time you have a boil over.

    If that's not an option, I would seriously consider smaller batches. There are lots of people who do one, two, or three gallon batches rather than the standard five.
     
  10. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Grand Pooh-Bah (3,452) May 21, 2010 Texas
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    This. And this.

    The pot should accommodate a full boil, but wort chiller needed. Plus side is better beer tho.
     
  11. Eriktheipaman

    Eriktheipaman Pooh-Bah (2,303) Sep 4, 2010 California
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    Both lol. I brewed on an electric apartment stove for a few years and while the coil didn't go out it was super charred and groady by the time I moved. I have heard a few stories about the actual element going out from extended use.
     
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  12. utahbeerdude

    utahbeerdude Maven (1,374) May 2, 2006 Utah

    When I got started I did partial boils on a coil-type electric range. I used a canning burner (sits higher than regular burner), but after a number of boils I had to replace the wiring to the burner. It got so hot underneath the metal top that the insulation around the wires degraded to the point of being a hazard.
     
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  13. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Grand Pooh-Bah (3,452) May 21, 2010 Texas
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    Tis better to split a boil between two pots than to try and boil too much on a single burner (and probably better than trying to straddle two burners with one pot). Split the hops proportionately if you do this.
     
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  14. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    I started out doing split boils, like ACJ suggests above. I still do it, but on a gas stove.
     
  15. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    I've used several pots to get the wort up to boiling temperature with some success. I think if I had to do a full boil on the range again I'd do it that way and adjust for boil off rates. I'd expect them to change and make adjustments by the time I threw my bittering hops in. (Have a dip stick, OP that tells you how many gallons you have in your main kettle).
     
  16. warchez

    warchez Zealot (545) Oct 19, 2004 Massachusetts

    Use a lid until the boil starts. Helps hold in energy while coming to temp. But you'll have to keep an eye on it or a massive boil over could ensue.
     
  17. JohnfromPurdue

    JohnfromPurdue Zealot (572) Apr 27, 2009 Indiana
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    You could always try insulating the sides of the with aluminum foil.
     
  18. Neary

    Neary Initiate (0) Jan 31, 2013 Ohio


    Why the wort chiller? Another guy told me that an ice bath would do the trick?
     
  19. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Grand Pooh-Bah (3,452) May 21, 2010 Texas
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    If you have about 40-60 lbs of ice, maybe, which is probably what you'll need for five gallons of boiling wort. Otherwise you'll find yourself wanting a wort chiller very quickly. Like after the first time you try to use ice and find it rather difficult.

    For comparison, it takes me the whole ice maker plus a ten pound bag of ice, plus two 16oz frozen water bottles plus a frozen 32oz gatorade bottle to cool TWO gallons* of boiling wort in any kind of reasonable time.

    *I make experimental 2 gallon batches of extract brews at home, and full batches of all grain at my brother's
     
  20. Neary

    Neary Initiate (0) Jan 31, 2013 Ohio

    well this first batch only calls for 2.5 gallons on the boil I believe...

    But okay I can't see if for later batches
     
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