FL Growler bill passes

Discussion in 'South Atlantic' started by HeartofMiami, Apr 14, 2015.

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  1. HeartofMiami

    HeartofMiami Pooh-Bah (2,357) Sep 20, 2014 Florida
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  2. RblWthACoz

    RblWthACoz Initiate (0) Aug 19, 2006 Pennsylvania

    When you can only get a growler up to 32 ounces in size or 128 ounces or more, I would say yes it makes a very big difference. A 128 ounce growler of beer is an obnoxious level of brew.

    Businesses should be able to sell whatever size growler they damn well please, when it comes down to it. Especially since the mass majority of consumers in the state want it.
     
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  3. HeartofMiami

    HeartofMiami Pooh-Bah (2,357) Sep 20, 2014 Florida
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    I agree it's the right thing to do and good for the consumer too!
     
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  4. markgugs

    markgugs Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2006 New Jersey

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  5. SILVER

    SILVER Zealot (668) Jan 3, 2007 Florida

    It does work fine for tailgating, don't you know?
    Come Oktoberfest time I just love Floridian with my wurst. I do it in the yard with friends and family.
    High Prost!
     
  6. SackBlabbath

    SackBlabbath Initiate (0) Nov 28, 2014 Kentucky

    Woohoo victory is (y)ours.
     
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  7. SILVER

    SILVER Zealot (668) Jan 3, 2007 Florida

    Damn right! (y)
     
  8. schoellnasty

    schoellnasty Initiate (0) Jun 12, 2013 Florida

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  9. CGMLS3

    CGMLS3 Initiate (0) Jul 30, 2010 Florida

  10. weaverr

    weaverr Zealot (729) Jun 10, 2008 California

    That article says it just passed the Senate, so it still has to get through the House. Either way, that's great news!
     
  11. Hopzilla

    Hopzilla Crusader (440) Dec 4, 2013 Florida
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    But what are your thoughts on Hop Gun Classic?
     
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  12. HoptimusPrimeIPA

    HoptimusPrimeIPA Initiate (0) Dec 11, 2010 Florida

    One step in the right direction.
     
  13. antilite

    antilite Initiate (0) Jan 1, 2012 Florida

  14. weaverr

    weaverr Zealot (729) Jun 10, 2008 California

    Here's the existing Florida Status. The green text is what the bill adds, the red text is what the bill removes: https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2015/0186/BillText/e1/HTML

    This is my summary:
    - You can no longer use an electronics benefits card to purchase alcohol anywhere (previously you couldn't at bars)
    - Previous wording was kind of vague about breweries having vendor licenses in non-brewery structures. Now it has to be a brewery. This might prohibit breweries from owning tap rooms in which no brewing occurs. Brewing campuses are ok.
    - A brewery that has multiple vendor locations can transport their own beer between locations without a distributor involved.
    - A brewery can operate up to 8 locations with vendor licenses.
    - Removal of "broker" as a potential participant in many advertising / promotional functions.
    - Conversion of "shall" to "may" in reference to the minimum sale price of promotional items.
    - Tastings at off-premises sales locations (liquor stores) are now allowed.
    - Breweries / distributors can't create advertising for those tastings, so basically they can't endorse or recommend the tasting location. Tasting location can advertise however they want.
    - Various text updates "beer" to "malt beverage".
    - Previously vehicles that transported alcohol for business purposes had to be licensed, this is no longer the case.
    - It is specifically legal to transport a full or empty growler. Wasn't illegal before, but now it is defined as legal.
    - A malt beverage may be sold in a growler defined as 32, 64 or 128 ounces.
    - A applicable off-premises vendor license is required to sell growlers
    - Growlers require a label that specifies the brewery, beer and estimated ABV.
    - Growlers must be sealed.
    - Growlers can't be distributed.
    - $250 fine for violating growler laws.
    - Sampling activities must occur at a location with an on-premises consumption license, liquor store or in a distribution warehouse of at least 10,000 feet.
    - Have to be 21 to participate in a sampling event.
    - Samples have to be provided in a tasting cup or an open container, you can't provide sealed containers at a sampling event.
    - Liquor store tastings (off-premises vendor licenses) have to occur indoors and samples must be provided in tasting cups of 3.5oz or less.
    - Breweries and distributors can't pay a vendor to host a sampling event, however they can purchase the products to be sampled from the vendor at no more than retail price.
    - Breweries and distributors must pay excise tax on the items sampled and must return all unconsumed items to inventory.
    - Only one brewery/distributor tasting at a time at a location, although locations can have multiple sampling events each day.
    - On-premises consumption license holders can also host tasting events with products from their own inventory.
    - Distilleries can sell no more than 2 of each product, 3 of a single product plus 1 of another product, 4 of a single product in a face-to-face transaction. Only face-to-face transactions are allowed. Previously only 2 total bottles were allowed.
    - Distilleries can only deliver to consumers on the distillery property (what?)
    - Upon request, the state will install Highway Guide Signs directing auto traffic to craft distilleries. I think that's those blue signs you see on the interstate.
    - This all takes effect July 1.
     
  15. weaverr

    weaverr Zealot (729) Jun 10, 2008 California

    I don't know if those sampling event changes conflict with beer festivals, though I wouldn't imagine they do since at beer festivals you are buying the beer and selling it (through tickets) for on-premises consumption. There's probably some other section of Florida Status that deals with that.
     
  16. CGMLS3

    CGMLS3 Initiate (0) Jul 30, 2010 Florida

    Thanks for translating the legal speak.
     
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  17. KidIcarus1945

    KidIcarus1945 Initiate (0) Mar 10, 2015 Florida

    So..wait...a vendor license doesn't allow sales for off-premise consumption? Sounds like you'll need a vendor license, and off-premises vendor license.

    And where does this leave brewpubs? If the vendor license is allowing the sale of alcohol period then what is going to happen to brewpubs? I know Florida has different regulations for breweries vs brewpubs, but's I've never been 100% clear on these.
     
  18. SILVER

    SILVER Zealot (668) Jan 3, 2007 Florida

    Funny you should ask, but let me say this..............
    In my small way, I'm trying to start a movement to bring back, even in small batches, the original Hop Gun.
    What you say? Join in?
    BTW, I did warn/tell them at the brewery.
    Oh, and thanks for asking!
     
  19. Divo93

    Divo93 Initiate (0) Feb 17, 2015 Florida

    im in
     
  20. rightcoast7

    rightcoast7 Maven (1,330) Apr 2, 2011 Maine
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    Does this pertain only to breweries, or would this prevent growler stations at places like Total Wine or ABC? I can't imagine they would be able to carry a specific label for every brewery, unless you're allowed to just handwrite that info on the growler.
     
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