Flaked Oats and cloudiness?

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  1. Silver_Is_Money

    Silver_Is_Money Devotee (337) Jun 4, 2017 Ohio

    I'm suddenly becoming intrigued with the concept of adding some quantity of flaked oats to nigh on every recipe I brew, in order to benefit from the increased mouthfeel perception. But in the process I don't want to sacrifice clarity. So with these two objectives in mind, how much Flaked Oats can I add to a 6 gallons in the fermenter batch without noticeably impacting clarity? Assume 13 Plato as my nominal midrange recipes OG.
     
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  2. Brewday

    Brewday Zealot (721) Dec 25, 2015 New York

    I don't think you want it in every recipe. It might be useless in low quantity's. Maybe 2-3%.
     
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  3. csurowiec

    csurowiec Initiate (0) Mar 7, 2010 Maryland

    I've gone up to 10% of Quaker old fashioned rolled oats and the beer still dropped clear. That particular beer was 5lb pils, 4lb white wheat, and 1lb oats.
     
  4. Silver_Is_Money

    Silver_Is_Money Devotee (337) Jun 4, 2017 Ohio

    Yes, sometimes a seemingly brilliant thought just pops out of nowhere, and then upon further reflection one finds that there was no genius there to begin with. What was I thinking? :thinking_face:
     
  5. Silver_Is_Money

    Silver_Is_Money Devotee (337) Jun 4, 2017 Ohio

    Did it have that creamy mouthfeel? Perhaps there is hope for my thought of great madness after all.
     
  6. thebriansmaude

    thebriansmaude Crusader (472) Dec 16, 2016 Canada (AB)
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    I don't know about EVERY beer, but oats are great for mouthfeel and creamyness ! Not great for head retention though....
     
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  7. csurowiec

    csurowiec Initiate (0) Mar 7, 2010 Maryland

    It did not have a creamy mouthfeel. I think you get that when combining oats with a less attenuative yeast. That particular beer was made with Belle Saison so I think that made a difference.
     
  8. TooHopTooHandle

    TooHopTooHandle Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2016 New York

    Another attribute to mouth feel is your water profile.
     
  9. LuskusDelph

    LuskusDelph Initiate (0) May 1, 2008 New Jersey

    Really???? I've used as much as 20% of flaked oats in my beers and always wound up with crystal clear brew!!!
     
  10. Brewday

    Brewday Zealot (721) Dec 25, 2015 New York

    I'll somewhat agree since i read the Brulosophy test with flaked oats but i've never seen a crystal clear beer with oats unless you used gelatin. Usually there's some haze.Pics?
     
  11. Brewday

    Brewday Zealot (721) Dec 25, 2015 New York

    There's no rules in home brewing. I experiment all the time. I'll be doing some different methods with flaked oats and rice soon.
     
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  12. jimboothdesigns

    jimboothdesigns Initiate (0) Nov 1, 2014 Pennsylvania

    Don't forget to add plenty of rice hulls.
     
  13. Silver_Is_Money

    Silver_Is_Money Devotee (337) Jun 4, 2017 Ohio

    Good point! Is there a ballpark of weight (or volume) of Rice Hulls required vs. weight (or percentage) of added Flaked Oats?
     
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  14. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    Add a couple lbs to your grist. They're very inexpensive.
     
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  15. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    Oats, on their own, will not make your beer cloudy.
     
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  16. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    Beta-glucans are certainly great for that, but if you're not getting good head retention from your beer, oats are not the culprit.

    Surprised that you didn't get good mouthfeel with that beer as Belle Saison is a high glycerol producer, so even though it would have attenuated more, you still should have got some semblance of mouthfeel.
     
  17. csurowiec

    csurowiec Initiate (0) Mar 7, 2010 Maryland

    The beer wasn't thin at all but it also didn't have the mouthfeel of oatmeal stouts or milk stouts that I've made. Maybe I was expecting 10% oats to add more and it was more subtle than that. I was really liking BIAB that day because my spent grain was a gluey mess.
     
  18. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    That was certainly not a good expectation to have as S. cerevisiae var. diastaticus strains, like Belle Saison, won't leave the residual extract that a normal yeast strain would even if they do produce more glycerol than them.

    Understandable. Higher percentages of unhusked grain make for sticky mashes.
     
  19. csurowiec

    csurowiec Initiate (0) Mar 7, 2010 Maryland

    Please don't misunderstand. I didn't add the oats hoping for miracles. I got exactly what I wanted, a basic summertime tasty beer with the flavor contributions of the Belle Saison and it wasn't too thin.
     
  20. Silver_Is_Money

    Silver_Is_Money Devotee (337) Jun 4, 2017 Ohio

    So is the proper ratio 1 lb. of rice hulls for 1 lb. of Oat flakes? 1:1

    I mash in a cooler conversion with a braid.
     
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