Flameout Fruit Addition - sanitize or not?

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by InVinoVeritas, Apr 30, 2014.

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  1. InVinoVeritas

    InVinoVeritas Initiate (0) Apr 16, 2012 Wisconsin

    I'm going to give a Revolver Blood and Honey clone a try. I'm using an online clone reference. What do you guys do with flameout additions? Would you sanitize the orange peel in vodka for a couple days before brew day?

    As a secondary question, for those that have added fresh orange peel, how much for a 5 gallon batch? Reference recipe calls for 2 oz.
     
    #1 InVinoVeritas, Apr 30, 2014
  2. Homebrew42

    Homebrew42 Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2006 New York

    If you're adding them to 200+ degree wort then there's no need to sanitize them before hand.
     
    #2 Homebrew42, Apr 30, 2014
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  3. hoptualBrew

    hoptualBrew Initiate (0) May 29, 2011 Florida

    Flameout additions don't need to be sanitized, once they hit 210 F wort and sit at those temps for 15+ mins, they are surely pasteurized.

    Any other fruit other than orange peel going in at flameout?
     
    #3 hoptualBrew, Apr 30, 2014
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  4. InVinoVeritas

    InVinoVeritas Initiate (0) Apr 16, 2012 Wisconsin

    I'm not sure if I'm going to add some of the orange meat as well. I will be adding honey at flameout as well.
     
    #4 InVinoVeritas, Apr 30, 2014
  5. hoptualBrew

    hoptualBrew Initiate (0) May 29, 2011 Florida

    Keep in mind that any additions (like fruit & honey) will lose a lot of volatile flavor and aroma character from (a) the heat of the wort at flameout &, more significantly, (b) fermentation. I'm not 100% on the science, but an educated guess leads me to believe that the extreme heat denatures volatile compounds and may drive off water-soluble compounds. Honey is one I've never had good results with, flavor wise. Its a simple sugar that will be metabolized during fermentation.

    My advice would be to either add the orange meat in secondary or dry hop with a hop like Amarillo that mimicks a citrus orange character. For the honey, maybe add in some honey malt to the grist for insurance in case the honey does completely ferment out.
     
    #5 hoptualBrew, Apr 30, 2014
  6. Homebrew42

    Homebrew42 Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2006 New York

    Volatile means that a compound has a tendency to evaporate into the atmosphere, and volatile compounds evaporate faster at higher temperatures.
     
    #6 Homebrew42, Apr 30, 2014
  7. hoptualBrew

    hoptualBrew Initiate (0) May 29, 2011 Florida

    Boom! I knew I was somewhat on target.
     
    #7 hoptualBrew, Apr 30, 2014
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