Flanders Red Discovery

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  1. Celtics76

    Celtics76 Pooh-Bah (1,781) Sep 5, 2011 Rhode Island
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    It took me 20+ years to try this style, but wow I'm really glad I did. I feel like I did when I tried Trillium/Tree House for the first time. I'm generally not a big sour fan, but something about the sharp cherry/balsamic/tart flavors really hits a note with me.

    Unfortunately, with the bottle shops dominated by hazy stuff, haven't been able to find many. My favorite so far is Duchesse de Bourgogne. That had the sharpest balsamic flavor, which for some crazy reason I like. I can see how it might be off putting to some. Otherwise, I've had a couple of different Rodenbachs and was impressed by each. I have Jacobins Rouge to try over Thanksgiving.

    Any thoughts/recommendations on this complex style? Any styles that you "discovered" late in your craft beer journey?
     
  2. FBarber

    FBarber Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,325) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
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    Its funny because I ended up accidentally drinking Duchesse de Bourgogne very early on in my craft beer journey - thought it was god awful. To this day, in spite of the fact that I can appreciate that beer and actually like the style - Duchesse de Bourgogne still is off putting to me.

    In terms of the style - Jacobins rouge is a great one to try. I prefer Cuvée Des Jacobins Prestige a bit more though - if you can find that one its well worth buying.

    All of the Rodenbach offerings are excellent.

    Liefman's Goudenband is also very good.
     
  3. Urk1127

    Urk1127 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,790) Jul 2, 2014 New Jersey
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    Vander Ghinste should be relatively easy to find.
     
  4. jageraholic

    jageraholic Pooh-Bah (1,632) Sep 16, 2009 Massachusetts
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    I had New Belgium's La Folie while travelling through the denver airport, so my tastes my be skewed by vacation travels, but I found it to be really well done.
     
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  5. Celtics76

    Celtics76 Pooh-Bah (1,781) Sep 5, 2011 Rhode Island
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    I think if I had Duchesse 20 years ago, I would have had the same reaction. That was back in my Blue Moon/Sam Adams days. It's definitely a bit more acidic than the others I've had.
     
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    Urk1127 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,790) Jul 2, 2014 New Jersey
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    Also not a Flanders red but you may like Ommegang Rosetta and it’d be in your area. If you haven’t already had.

    I actually do not like rodenbach grand cru for its balsamic qualities but I do enjoy oude bruin a lot so Rosetta is nice.
     
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  7. readyski

    readyski Pooh-Bah (1,557) Jun 4, 2005 California
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    I second the Rodenbach, especially if you can find Alexander or Caractere Rouge.
     
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  8. traction

    traction Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2010 Georgia
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    Apparently next time I go to the store I am looking for a beer with balsamic notes. I'm open to new things, I wanted to try the French's Mustard beer which I'm sure was vinegary.
     
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  9. bsp77

    bsp77 Pooh-Bah (2,185) Apr 27, 2008 Minnesota
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    I would say to try the Oud Bruin too, as the line between Flemish Red and Oud Bruin is often thin. The following are all relatively common and good examples of the styles:

    Rodenbach Grand Cru
    New Belgium La Folie
    Deschutes The Dissident
    Liefmans Goudenband
    Petrus Aged Pale (kind of a Flemish Pale)
     
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  10. Jugs_McGhee

    Jugs_McGhee Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,140) Aug 15, 2010 Texas
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    Rodenbach Rodenbach Rodenbach.

    Caractere Rouge and Vintage are some of the finest beers money can buy.
     
  11. Celtics76

    Celtics76 Pooh-Bah (1,781) Sep 5, 2011 Rhode Island
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    Yes I see Rosetta everywhere but ignored it for whatever reason. On my list!
     
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  12. zac16125

    zac16125 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,432) Jan 26, 2010 South Carolina
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    Great and often under explored style. I am guilty of this myself with these, should probably be trying more! Cuvee des Jacobins is my favorite of the ones I’ve had, looks like you are already on par to drink that one soon.

    But in regards to your discovering styles later into your beer drinking career Id say that certianly possible. As you mentioned we are inundated with American craft styles, which largely consist of hoppy pale ale variant styles and adjunct stouts. If looking for “new” to you styles I’d suggest diving into some traditional European styles.
     
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  13. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    Yeah, Rodenbach Vintage is as good as it gets, but Grand Cru isn't that far behind. And at half the price it's the one that I go to most often.
     
  14. SILVER

    SILVER Zealot (668) Jan 3, 2007 Florida

    Ommegang makes Brunetta that is a bit more similar to The Duchesse. They are both excellent, though. I have them both in my fridge although I save Rosetta for Sunday morning breakfast.
    No, I don't have beer for breakfast, I have beer with breakfast.
    Rosetta instead of way too sweet OJ!
     
  15. zac16125

    zac16125 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,432) Jan 26, 2010 South Carolina
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    this is a bit off topic but I do love how for many of the European styles that if you want to try one of the elite standards of the style they usually are just sitting on shelves at beer stores. and that’s not just for obscure styles, quads,Tripels, Belgian strong dark ales, hefes, various light lager styles, etc.
     
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  16. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    This is true. Let's try to keep it that way :slight_smile: :beers:
     
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  17. Celtics76

    Celtics76 Pooh-Bah (1,781) Sep 5, 2011 Rhode Island
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    I plan on spending most of my time for a while in the import section of the beer aisle, which unfortunately takes up only about 5% of total shelf space. Plenty of stuff I haven't tried though.
     
  18. Insomniac

    Insomniac Initiate (0) Nov 5, 2019 Canada (ON)

    When I first tried Duchesse many moons ago I considered it more appropriate as a salad dressing than a beer, but now I really enjoy it. Goudenband, as mentioned, is also outstanding. Regarding Rodenbach, they can do no wrong. Grand Cru, Alexander and Caractere Rouge are three of the world's best beers, regardless of style.
     
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  19. sculls65

    sculls65 Pundit (769) Dec 15, 2008 Michigan

    La Roja from Jolly Pumpkin is pretty solid
     
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  20. slander

    slander Pooh-Bah (2,568) Nov 5, 2001 New York
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    I always felt the Duchesse was Saccharin-y.
    The (Verhaeghe) Vichtenaar is a much better beer from them (and the Echt Kriekenbier is no slouch, either).
     
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