Flat DIPA

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  1. greyghost86

    greyghost86 Initiate (0) Apr 22, 2012 Delaware

    This is only my second brew and I was trying a kit DIPA from Brewers Best. I had no issues that I could see during the brew, it tasted awesome before I bottled it, abet it was flat as you would expect.
    Bottling went fine as far as I could tell, but 14 days after sealing the caps I opened one this evening and it had a decent one finger head, but tasted flat. It had all the flavors, just flat. I tried another and got the same results. A third just opened was the same.
    Am I jumping the gun and opening too soon?
    Did something happen that I am missing?:confused:
    Should I just enjoy the flat DIPA? (It does taste pretty good for being flat:drunk:slight_smile:
    Any help or suggestions are much appreciated!!!
     
  2. OddNotion

    OddNotion Pooh-Bah (1,915) Nov 1, 2009 New Jersey
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    Give it more time and I think you'll likely be fine
     
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  3. koopa

    koopa Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2008 New Jersey

    Provided you added enough priming sugar, condition at a warm enough temperature, and your abv isn't above the yeasts alcohol tolerance level, you should be fine given enough time.
     
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  4. greyghost86

    greyghost86 Initiate (0) Apr 22, 2012 Delaware

    I used the priming sugar that was provided by the kit, the ferment temp was pretty steady between 68-70 degrees and I the ABV worked out to less (7.4% was the final while the target was 7.8 to 8.3%) so I am seriously scratching my head!!!! Maybe I have to leave it longer, but I am afraid I will start losing the hop flavor?
     
  5. fuzzbalz

    fuzzbalz Pundit (953) Apr 13, 2002 Georgia

    At what temp did you bottle condition? Should leave bottles at room temp for 2 to 3 weeks then into the fridge for a couple days before trying one. When I used to bottle I'd put one in the fridge at 2 weeks and try, then 3 weeks and try. Once I like the carb level I throw them all in.
     
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  6. greyghost86

    greyghost86 Initiate (0) Apr 22, 2012 Delaware

    They have been sitting in a dark basement corner at 68-70 degrees for the past two weeks. They fermented in the same room which is totally darkened. Is this a case of just my having to wait a little longer?
     
  7. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    Do you get much of a 'hiss' when popping the cap?

    You might also want to check your notes to see if you inadvertently had more beer than what the amount of sugar was capable of carbonating.
     
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  8. greyghost86

    greyghost86 Initiate (0) Apr 22, 2012 Delaware

    The 'hiss' was slightly disappointing after my first brew had a hearty 'how ya doing hiss' where as this DIPA has a small tired sounding 'hiss'. As for the amount, I actually had less than I was anticipating. In the five gallon container I only had 42 bottles, where as my first brew I had 56.
     
  9. fuzzbalz

    fuzzbalz Pundit (953) Apr 13, 2002 Georgia

    I'd say so, you got a finger of head on your pours so I think your good. Let them set in the fridge a couple days also so some of the Co2 can get into solution, that will help with it tasting flat.
     
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  10. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    Short answer: Yes
    Longer answer: Yes!

    Give your brew some time to mell-o-w...ma-ture...and become one-with-nature.
    You be absolutely fookin'amazed at how more better it be after six weeks in the bottle and then again how much more fookin'delicious when it turns eight.

    Patience hop-grasser.
     
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  11. greyghost86

    greyghost86 Initiate (0) Apr 22, 2012 Delaware

    Do I start losing the hop flavors the longer it sits? That is my issue right now, the flavor is good, just not enough carbonation!! How long is too long before the hops tend to lose their appeal?
     
  12. greyghost86

    greyghost86 Initiate (0) Apr 22, 2012 Delaware

    By the way, thank you all for the quick comments back!!!!
     
  13. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    If the carb t'ain't quite right...1) move the bottles to a warmer location and / or 2) rouse the yeast by gently inverting the bottes a time or three every other day for a few days.

    Hopitudness will fade with time.
    All else equal...peak hop lasts about 30 days between five and eight weeks in the bottle.
     
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  14. koopa

    koopa Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2008 New Jersey

    Warmer location is a good idea. Have you opened a second bottle yet? I ask because if you failed to get an even distribution of the priming sugar, you could have always sampled a bottle that failed to receive adequate priming sugar to begin with....
     
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  15. greyghost86

    greyghost86 Initiate (0) Apr 22, 2012 Delaware

    I have opened a total of three and all have that flat taste. I am going to invert the bottles once and move everything to a room that is about 75 degrees. Thank you again for the input!!
     
  16. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    What's more important to you, 100% hop flavor/aroma or proper carbonation? I'm not surprised at all that a relatively big beer wouldn't be fully carbonated after 2 weeks at 68-70F. BTW, I doubt you'll lose much hop flavor/aroma over the next couple weeks, unless you oxidized the bejeezus out of your beer when bottling.

    Refrigerating beer that's in a closed system, in this case a capped bottle, doesn't put more CO2 into solution. The equilibrium between the CO2 in the beer and the CO2 in the headspace will be the same at any temperature.
     
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  17. fuzzbalz

    fuzzbalz Pundit (953) Apr 13, 2002 Georgia

    So your saying that as the priming surgar is being consumed and Co2 is being produced in the bottle, none of the Co2 or much of any gets into the head space do to it being a closed system and Co2 being heavier than air? I guess that makes sense, I guess I'm thinking more along the lines of a keg maybe.
     
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  18. Scope4Beer

    Scope4Beer Zealot (677) Sep 28, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I've had problems in the past with the low levels of carbonation. Out of curiousity, if you already have placed bottles in the fridge only to find out they're not carb'ed enough, would they still be able to carb more by taking them out and letting the sit longer at room temp again, or is the damage done since they were refridgerated?
     
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  19. fuzzbalz

    fuzzbalz Pundit (953) Apr 13, 2002 Georgia

    No, you can pull them back out and leave them at room temp. That will wake up what little yeast is left and continue to carb your beer. I've done this before, then I started just chilling a bottle or two at a time.
     
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  20. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I wasn't referring to a beer that's still making CO2 from priming sugar. I was talking about a beer where carbonation was already complete. Moving that (latter) beer to the fridge won't change the amount of CO2 in solution or in the headspace.

    ETA: But this would also apply to a beer that's not completely carbonated and moved to the fridge prematurely, assuming the temp is low enough to make the yeast go dormant.
     
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