flat imperial stout... re-yeasting?

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  1. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    I've heard of guys adding yeast into their sours that have been aging forever to get carbonation in the bottle. My imperial stout killed the yeast that originally fermented it. 2 months in bottles with no carb. I am thinking of popping the tops, taking some sterilized tweezers and adding a bit of lallemond cask/bottle conditioning yeast and recapping said bottles. Anyone ever done this? Next time that packet is going into the bottling bucket though. HA!
     
  2. bgjohnston

    bgjohnston Initiate (0) Jan 14, 2009 Connecticut

    I have re-yeasted in the bottling bucket. I also had a beer that I eventually gave up on carbonating, that might have benefited from re-yeasting, but in the end I decided to enjoy them as still beers. It blends well with a carbonated beer, or drinks like a cordial.

    I did have a Belgian strong dark carbonate over the course of 2 months, and then carbonate some more by about 6 months. But I think Belgian style ale yeast strains are just powerhouses that way.

    If you try this, I would be interested in knowing how it ultimately turns out.
     
  3. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    You could certainly do this, though I'm not sure I'd pull the trigger on a big beer after only 2 months. My concern though would be... if your beer (the ABV) actually killed your yeast, there might be some maltose still left in the beer. AFAIK, the yeast you are contemplating using can eat it, so you might overcarbonate to whatever extent there was leftover maltose sugar. If you do this, you might at least consider using a true champagne yeast, because they are bad at eating maltose, but are great at eating simple (priming) sugars.
     
  4. utahbeerdude

    utahbeerdude Maven (1,374) May 2, 2006 Utah

    I done it in the past with a big Belgian. I rehydrated dry yeast and then used a dropper to add some yeast slurry to each bottle. Worked like a charm.
     
  5. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    I think I like this idea better than the tweezers. Yeast hydration will double the proof and will help get this going. Popping 50 caps and recapping will be enough work on its own that I wouldn't want to leave anything to chance.

    @SFACRKnight Not to belittle you, but you did remember to add priming sugar too, right? I'd hate to hear that that one got past you, past this thread, and you'll be out another 50 caps. :slight_smile: Just double checkin.`
     
  6. premierpro

    premierpro Savant (1,060) Mar 21, 2009 Michigan

    I am of the camp to swirl each bottle and give it more time. Good luck!
     
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    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    @inchrisin , I used priming sugar. :grinning:
    I get the tiniest pst when I pop tops. The beer came in at 12.5% using equal parts irish ale and chico. Not sure what went wrong...
     
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    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    Dragging this one back up from the depths...
    @VikeMan the lallemand cask and bottling yeast does not ferment maltose either. So, after much debate, a few weeks ago I popped the tops on a case of 12ers and a case of bombers, sanitized everything with rubbing alcohol and a flame and starsan as well, and dropped a grain of dry yeast into each bottle and recapped. Its been three weeks, and I have carbonation, however carbing is slow and I fully expect to be fully carbed in another 3-4 weeks.
     
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  9. Robtobfest

    Robtobfest Initiate (0) Oct 21, 2009 Connecticut

    Wow! Thanks for the update! I just bottle a 9.5% stout last week that I am a bit worried about. A single grain of yeast in each bottle????
     
  10. Naugled

    Naugled Pooh-Bah (1,944) Sep 25, 2007 New York
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    I've had to do this recently to a RIS. First beer I've had that didn't carbonate properly. My strategy has been to reyeast as I want to drink them. I'll reyeast 2 or 4 bottles at a time, they seem to be ready in about 4 weeks, then I drink them all within 4 weeks. Doing it this way I'm hoping to avoid any issues with over carbonating and contamination. And my reyeasting process can be more laxed, just pop open, drop in a little yeast and recap - done. So far so good.
     
  11. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    Yeah, one grain per bottle.
     
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