Foamy Beer

Discussion in 'Home Bar' started by gishua, Jan 21, 2014.

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  1. gishua

    gishua Initiate (0) Jan 21, 2014 Florida

    Does height of tap make a difference? it's towards the bottom of the keg heightwise
     
  2. DougC123

    DougC123 Savant (1,186) Aug 21, 2012 Connecticut

  3. gishua

    gishua Initiate (0) Jan 21, 2014 Florida

    Anything else to try?
     
  4. DougC123

    DougC123 Savant (1,186) Aug 21, 2012 Connecticut

    Let's go back to a question I had asked before...if you shake the keg do you hear slush in it? I think you should also untap at this point and take a look at the washer on the keg to make sure there aren't any nicks or tears in it.
     
  5. gishua

    gishua Initiate (0) Jan 21, 2014 Florida

    No slush and no tears. I checked it earlier today. I am not sure why there are so many bubbles in the line though. Since going through these changes on the forum, it's foamier now than it was before...not sure what to do at this point other than startin over w/ another keg and just drink as is for this one...which sucks!
     
  6. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Yes, because gravity from height is additive to the line resistance. But you have bigger issues than would be caused by that.
     
  7. gishua

    gishua Initiate (0) Jan 21, 2014 Florida

    Thank you all for help. At this point is there a way to "RESET" the system to start over somehow? How should I proceed?
     
  8. DougC123

    DougC123 Savant (1,186) Aug 21, 2012 Connecticut

    I would turn off the CO2, purge the keg, let it sit a little, shake it and purge. Repeat until the venting slows down. That will remove any over carbonation and probably get you to under carbed. While you are doing this bump the temp up a little. That's a restart.
     
  9. mikehartigan

    mikehartigan Maven (1,421) Apr 9, 2007 Illinois

    ^^^ what he said ^^^
    Remove the CO2, purge, blah, blah, blah, until it's undercarbed. Turn the gas back on (I wouldn't advise you to increase the temp, but I guess t won't hurt) and it will, in a few days, reach the correct level of carbonation. Hopefully, your problem will be behind you.
     
  10. gishua

    gishua Initiate (0) Jan 21, 2014 Florida

    Thank you both Mike & Doug...so just turn it off and leave it be...burping it...then anything i need to set co2 at right now or just leave off for 2-3 days.
     
  11. DougC123

    DougC123 Savant (1,186) Aug 21, 2012 Connecticut

    Leave it off for now.
     
  12. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Don't forget the shaking part. Or you'll be burping for a long time.
     
  13. gishua

    gishua Initiate (0) Jan 21, 2014 Florida

    Ok guys. Thanks again for everything...I left off the co2 for a day and a half burping and shaking alot. I turned it on yesterday afternoon and put it at 5-6 psi. I poured a beer about 3 hours later. It came out about 1/4 foam and rest beer so it was way better, but i'm at 50% psi.

    Last last night i raised it to 10psi and waited an hour then poured 3/4 foam and 1/4 beer.

    Guess i didnt let it burp for long enough?
     
  14. DougC123

    DougC123 Savant (1,186) Aug 21, 2012 Connecticut

    Waiting an hour does nothing for you, the system needs time to react to changes. The fact that you got the same results at 5 psi and after an hour at 10 psi shows that. Let it stay at 10 for a while then have a drink. The first one you pull will likely still be the same as you are purging the beer with gaps out of the line, but subesquently it should show a change. Just for giggles, where is your beer line laying once you close the door? One of the keys to controlling foam is constant temperature from keg to faucet. I know in my side by side that there are areas on the fridge door that get colder than the rest of the fridge because stuff occassionaly freezes there. I'd try to keep the line in the center of the fridge and avoid having it near the door edges or the freezer compartment.
     
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  15. gishua

    gishua Initiate (0) Jan 21, 2014 Florida

    Hey there doug, went ahead and waited a day then pulled one...3/4 foam -- 1/4 beer. I am leaving everything in the same spot of the fridge. Wondering if something else is messing it up. I have tried all temperature advice and psi advice. Could there be bad seal to the co2 tank?
     
  16. DougC123

    DougC123 Savant (1,186) Aug 21, 2012 Connecticut

    Like I said in my last post, the first one after waiting may be an issue as there was presumably separation in the beer line already. Pull one now, but before doing so take a look at the beer line - is it full of pockets or is it solid beer -that will be telling. A bad seal to the CO2 tank will not give you foam, it will leak your CO2 out. Did you also take a look at where your lines are laying and try to keep them off the sides of the fridge?
    If this all keeps going towards foam you might just have a bad keg.
     
  17. paulys55

    paulys55 Initiate (0) Aug 2, 2010 Pennsylvania

    This is a long shot but is the coupler completely engaged in the keg? I have had bartenders not tighten the coupler completely and had similar results.
     
  18. gishua

    gishua Initiate (0) Jan 21, 2014 Florida

    Pauly thanks, I believe so...I turned it as much as I could? Anything else I have to make sure of? Also after i pull a beer i see foam just filling up the line from the keg. Possibly over-carbed i guess?

    Doug, I did as you said but didn't articulate. I just pulled 2 beers. Mostly foam and yes there were 2 pockets about 4"-6" long. Here are some photos of the setup for the beer lines.

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    Any issues w/ the setup that you can see?
     
  19. DougC123

    DougC123 Savant (1,186) Aug 21, 2012 Connecticut

    I wouldn't go with over carbed, I'd actually guess under right now or bad keg seal, or not fully seated as Pauly suggested. If that were my set up I'd bump the pressure up. Have you double checked temp to allow you to recheck balance?
     
  20. gishua

    gishua Initiate (0) Jan 21, 2014 Florida

    I would rather try that route of under than "over". I just took the temp and i'm at 37.5 degrees now which I think is ideal.

    Looks like 10-12psi based on temp and beer...correct? I'll raise it to 11psi and wait til this evening and try try again.

    If there is air in the beer line isn't the psi too low?
     
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