Foamy Beer

Discussion in 'Home Bar' started by gishua, Jan 21, 2014.

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  1. mikehartigan

    mikehartigan Maven (1,421) Apr 9, 2007 Illinois

    It can't be overstated that it takes days, not hours, for the beer to equilibrate to a new pressure. You need to undercarb it slightly, then ramp it up to the correct pressure - again, over a period of days.
     
  2. gishua

    gishua Initiate (0) Jan 21, 2014 Florida

    Yup I totally get it LOL just I gotta have a reason to "try" some beer right? Thanks guys!
     
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  3. DougC123

    DougC123 Savant (1,186) Aug 21, 2012 Connecticut

    Maybe my post wasn't clear. I was saying that I didn't agree with your suggestion you are over carbed, you are still likely too low on pressure.

    That is why I was suggesting you increase the pressure. Could also be that your regulator isn't accurate and while you think you are applying a certain pressure you really aren't. Could also be that the v/v target I got for you wasn't accurate or they changed it from the reference point I had in 2010.

    I suggest we look at this from the perspective of the "flashlight test" which basically suggests you add pressure in a pound or two increments until you don't see bubbles in the beer line and then leave it there. Add a pound or two and wait again. Wait a day or two between pressure changes, and yes you can drink in the name of science.
     
  4. gishua

    gishua Initiate (0) Jan 21, 2014 Florida

    Ok Mr. Doug-E-Fresh, Pauly and Mike, THANK YOU! You guys rock for walking me through this. I just had my first awesome pour thanks to the bad a$$ peeps on this forum.

    Thanks again guys...i'm sure i'll be back when I get a new keg HA HA!

    Looks pretty great when u have a nice pour!
     
  5. DougC123

    DougC123 Savant (1,186) Aug 21, 2012 Connecticut

    Have you changed anything between 11:38 this morning when you posted about two foamy pours and 6:18? I ask because it is unlikely any of those changes would have had an effect and you might have been on good settings already but hadn't waited long enough.
     
  6. gishua

    gishua Initiate (0) Jan 21, 2014 Florida

    I was afraid you were gonna say that. Let me wait on this again and hopefully the pours are good today. I'll try a few days on this setting and update you guys. Thanks Doug
     
  7. gishua

    gishua Initiate (0) Jan 21, 2014 Florida

    Just pulled one and it was pretty good! Think we got it doug...hopefully!
     
  8. gishua

    gishua Initiate (0) Jan 21, 2014 Florida

    So doug was right..no go... sorry guys. Not sure...feel like just finishing off this keg this way and screw it. Over the back and forth.
     
  9. DougC123

    DougC123 Savant (1,186) Aug 21, 2012 Connecticut

    What does the beer in the line look like - still pockets? If so bump up pressure 2 psi. Do nothing except drink if you want to for 2 days.
     
  10. gishua

    gishua Initiate (0) Jan 21, 2014 Florida

    Yeah no pockets just yet
     
  11. DougC123

    DougC123 Savant (1,186) Aug 21, 2012 Connecticut

    I'm not expecting pockets to develop, but we were coming at this from a condition of pockets which I suspected was undercarbed. So now the pockets are gone? That's good. That also means there are no bubble trails coming from the coupler into the beer line. Confirm that's the case. That would imply to me you are balanced. It would also suggest your foam is coming from somewhere else. When you open the faucet (BTW you need to always open it all the way) what do you get? You should get a quick flash of white then a steady stream of beer. What type of faucet do you have? Front closing faucets flow very fast and often need longer lines to add some resistance. At this point I'd consider longer beer line. Start with 10' and cut back in 6" intervals if the flow is too slow for you. I pour foam free at 10'.
     
  12. DougC123

    DougC123 Savant (1,186) Aug 21, 2012 Connecticut

    Hey, I just looked back at your picture. What is the blue wing nut on the coupler by the beer line? That's some sort of cobbled together choker or back flow preventer in lieu of a check ball I'd guess. Serves no purpose and could be aggravating the beer causing foam when the line is flowing. First things first - describe your flow when you open the faucet.
     
  13. g198569

    g198569 Aspirant (273) Mar 16, 2010 Pennsylvania

    dude
    ,you got a bad keg.
    I just had the same thing with a river horse.....poured a pitcher ,let it settle and drank!
    Put on a new keg (long trail double) same temps and setting and it pours just fine.
    relax and enjoy the beer once the foam(which is beer) settles.
    Cheers
     
  14. DougC123

    DougC123 Savant (1,186) Aug 21, 2012 Connecticut

    Not sure I see the relevance of quoting my post regarding tap height, but whatever floats your boat.
     
  15. gishua

    gishua Initiate (0) Jan 21, 2014 Florida

    LOL thanks Doug. No worries...gonna just hope for the next keg.
    I'm getting a 1/6 of Maduro Brown from Cigar City on Wed or Thurs. Should i put in fridge for a few days to let it settle and cool to 38.5 then tap it at 10-12psi then wait some more or I should be good to drink right away if I let settle a few days. I wanna make sure I get this 2nd keg right.

    Thanks again
    Josh
     
  16. DougC123

    DougC123 Savant (1,186) Aug 21, 2012 Connecticut

    First - hope is not a strategy. Second - how about you check into this....

    "Hey, I just looked back at your picture. What is the blue wing nut on the coupler by the beer line? That's some sort of cobbled together choker or back flow preventer in lieu of a check ball I'd guess. Serves no purpose and could be aggravating the beer causing foam when the line is flowing. First things first - describe your flow when you open the faucet"

    There is no need to let a keg settle for days, if you transported without much change in temperature it can go right away. I always tap and drink immediately because I'm happy about my new arrival. It isn't perfect, but it settles down quickly.
     
  17. zero_signal

    zero_signal Initiate (0) Aug 8, 2013 New Jersey

    I also thought that shut off thingy could be causing the foam issue.. Try removing it?
     
  18. gishua

    gishua Initiate (0) Jan 21, 2014 Florida

    Hey Doug and Zero, that just is crimping the tube to the connection to the keg. It's basically holding the line on the coupler. I bought that setup so I can move into homebrew without having to buy more stuff later on.
     
  19. DougC123

    DougC123 Savant (1,186) Aug 21, 2012 Connecticut

    My two cents, I'd get rid of it and go with a standard tail piece. Cobbling doesn't usually work out well on a beer line. When you switch to home brew make proper connections for that too.
     
  20. csoult

    csoult Initiate (0) Jan 30, 2014 Pennsylvania

    Without reading through this whole thread (only scanning it) I would say almost for certain that your line is not long enough. What is the ID of your line?
     
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