force carb help

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  1. brewtaltap

    brewtaltap Initiate (0) Feb 15, 2011 Oregon

    So today I tried force carbonation for the first time...and I need to know if I did it right.

    Today (Thursday) I attached my kegs to the co2 at 43 degrees and forced it at 25psi upside down until the bubbling stopped. Then viciously shook it, purged, tilted upside down and added co2 until bubbling stopped. I repeated that a few times. then put kegs back into fridge and set my regulator to 12psi. I'm letting it sit until Sunday night.

    So did I do it right or will it be under carbed or over carbed, or hopefully just right by Sunday night football?
     
  2. PortLargo

    PortLargo Pooh-Bah (1,831) Oct 19, 2012 Florida
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    From your description, it is difficult to say where it will end up. If given the amount of headspace and time and temperature the gas was applied, a skilled fluid dynamicist could probably give an answer, but unlikely someone like that is lurking here.

    If you have a spare pressure gauge you can attach to your gas post and measure your pressure. If not, a taste/eyeball test is about all you have left. The good news is that given time, it will equalize to your final desired carb level.
     
  3. mikehartigan

    mikehartigan Maven (1,421) Apr 9, 2007 Illinois

    I have a major concern about hooking up the gas with the keg upside down. You likely got beer in the gas line, which is definitely not a good thing unless you routinely clean and sanitize your gas lines (not generally done). And, FWIW, it probably didn't buy you anything. That said, Sunday evening is not out of the question.
     
  4. koopa

    koopa Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2008 New Jersey

    The "shake carb" method as I understand it is more along the lines of:

    Hook chilled beer up to the gas and crank it to 30 psi (40 psi if the beer is room temp)
    lay the keg on its side on the ground or on a counter top
    roll it back and forth vigorously for 2 - 4 minutes while feeding gas into it (depending on desired carb level)
    stand the keg up and disconnect the gas
    let it settle for 15+ minutes (so it doesn't shoot foam when you pull the release valve next)
    purge the gas until the keg is down to roughly the psi you want it at (8-14psi usually, depending on the beer)
    keep it in the refrigerator and start serving when you want it (usually waiting 24 hours or so)

    NOTE: I use the method above sometimes and still feel that, after following that procedure, the beer still benefits from hooking it back up to the gas and leaving it on the gas at your desired psi for 7 days.
     
  5. tngolfer

    tngolfer Initiate (0) Feb 16, 2012 Tennessee

    Depending on how high you filled your keg, you could get beer in your gas line because the pressure in the keg is higher than the pressure in the line after you turned your pressure down.
     
  6. psnydez86

    psnydez86 Initiate (0) Jan 4, 2012 Pennsylvania

    That's quite the elaborate force carb procedure. I thought kegging was supposed to be easy!!:wink:

    I used to set my keg up at 20-25 psi in a 36f fridge for 2 days and then back my psi down to the appropriate level. It got the beer a good amount of carbonation fast but I never could quite tell if I was over or under. Anymore I just set it to the proper psi given temp and volume and let it sit in my 36f fridge. The beer is usually 90% carbed in 4 days, 100% carbed in 7 days, and in 14 days its rounded out and drinking the best.

    I should also note the main reason I stopped the fast carb method was I noticed a harsh carbonic bite to my beers when done that way and it took them a long time to round out that carbonic taste/feel.
     
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  7. billandsuz

    billandsuz Pooh-Bah (2,097) Sep 1, 2004 New York
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    you should purge before you shake the keg. otherwise you are shaking the oxygen and CO2 into liquid. it is better to apply some gas and burp the keg a few times. then you blast the keg with high pressure and shake.

    otherwise, the force carb method is not at all perfect. it will get you within a range fairly quick, but unless you have messed around with your system for a long time it is unlikely you will hit your target. too many variables.

    you'll be fine if not perfect for Sunday. check it out in the morning sat and sunday. bump the pressure a bit if needed or relieve pressure. keep it cold. personally, I am more concerned that your brew is still green. a week or weeks of cold conditioning works wonders for most all beers.

    Cheers.
     
  8. koopa

    koopa Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2008 New Jersey

    Agreed. I left that step out assuming it was a given, but probably shouldn't have. Also important to do those initial burps at a low psi (I use 2-3psi myself) so that you aren't forcing any air in that head space straight into the beer.
     
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