Release Founder Brewing Co. to release DKML

Discussion in 'Beer News & Releases' started by Gregf51, Jun 9, 2017.

  1. Gregf51

    Gregf51 Zealot (537) Jun 12, 2014 Ohio
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  2. raynmoon

    raynmoon Crusader (743) Aug 13, 2011 Colorado
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    Haters gonna hate.
     
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  3. moshea

    moshea Devotee (433) Jul 16, 2007 Michigan
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    $0.31 an ounce in a 4 pack $0.48 cents an ounce in the large format.

    Does it cost 17 cents more an ounce to fill it in a large format bottle?
     
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  4. fehrminator

    fehrminator Disciple (356) Jan 26, 2008 North Carolina
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    Is it wrong that I was kind of hoping for a 40 oz. format?
     
  5. ISpendTooMuchOnBeer

    ISpendTooMuchOnBeer Initiate (73) Oct 29, 2015 Illinois
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    I dont think you gotta be a hater to hate this one.
     
  6. Jmorey

    Jmorey Disciple (330) Feb 10, 2015 Michigan
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    No idea on the truth, but usually the reasoning I hear is that the glass just costs more.
     
  7. raynmoon

    raynmoon Crusader (743) Aug 13, 2011 Colorado
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    Different bottling set up too likely. Could be a slower filler, putting out less volume than the 12oz and more labor intensive, which would add to the choose
     
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  8. raynmoon

    raynmoon Crusader (743) Aug 13, 2011 Colorado
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  9. zid

    zid Savant (925) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    My uninformed opinion is that it's essentially consumer conditioning.
     
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  10. MNAle

    MNAle Champion (899) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota

    AKA, charging what the market will bear! (And, not undercutting the established price expectations.)
     
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  11. moshea

    moshea Devotee (433) Jul 16, 2007 Michigan
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    I would agree.
     
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  12. kdivers

    kdivers Disciple (321) Jul 5, 2013 New Hampshire

    4 packs have more total volume, which "usually" yields a lower cost per unit. Another factor to take into account is expected product loss. If one out of every X bottles is messed up (under filled, not sealed correctly, etc), dealing with 22oz vs 12oz means a greater product loss.
     
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  13. MaltheadWeirdo

    MaltheadWeirdo Disciple (371) Nov 18, 2015 Pennsylvania
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    Haven't even laid eyes on Doom in any format yet, so I doubt I'll see this one. (Only found Frootwood on tap too -- but KBS surprisingly is a shelf turd at certain grocery stores this year.)
     
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  14. bound4er

    bound4er Champion (821) Jul 4, 2007 Wisconsin

    Jumping the Shark once again.
     
  15. bbtkd

    bbtkd Poo-Bah (1,920) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    I picked up a single Doom today even though I'm not an IPA fan. Have to try it. Same with DKML. Maybe I should hold onto the Doom and mix it with a DKML :grimacing:
     
  16. MacMalt

    MacMalt Poo-Bah (2,670) Jan 28, 2015 New Jersey
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    Next, we'll see Mickey's releasing a BA Mean Green.
     
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  17. Tripel_Threat

    Tripel_Threat Poo-Bah (1,998) Jun 29, 2014 Michigan
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    There needs now to be a bottle-conditioned ale called Consumer.
     
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  18. damasta414

    damasta414 Initiate (129) Mar 7, 2017 Wisconsin
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    I don't know about you guys but I'm drinking mines out of a brown paper bag.
     
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  19. Wolfhead

    Wolfhead Initiate (167) Sep 1, 2009 Illinois
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    This will be off the hook if Billy Dee Williams is the spokesperson

    "It works everytime"
     
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  20. Acinonyx

    Acinonyx Initiate (136) Mar 8, 2017 Michigan
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    Sounds like it's measuring at 14.2% out of the barrel.
     
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  21. HorseheadsHophead

    HorseheadsHophead Meyvn (1,286) Sep 15, 2014 New York

    Meh. Still not sure how I feel about this one. I mean, I won't knock it until I try it, but it's the trying it that I'm not sure about. :confused:
     
  22. raynmoon

    raynmoon Crusader (743) Aug 13, 2011 Colorado
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    Heard its going to be dry hopped after being aged in barrels. :angry:
     
  23. bbtkd

    bbtkd Poo-Bah (1,920) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    Has to be better than Frootwood or Doom, right? Right?
     
  24. HorseheadsHophead

    HorseheadsHophead Meyvn (1,286) Sep 15, 2014 New York

    Not necessarily. I haven't had yet Doom yet, though, so I'll give that the benefit of the doubt.
     
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  25. bbtkd

    bbtkd Poo-Bah (1,920) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    If you're an IPA fan then you'll like it, unless you're expecting to actually taste the bourbon barrel.
     
  26. HorseheadsHophead

    HorseheadsHophead Meyvn (1,286) Sep 15, 2014 New York

    I do like IPAs. My greatest fears are that it will be cloying, syrupy, and harshly boozy.
     
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  27. bbtkd

    bbtkd Poo-Bah (1,920) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    I found it slightly sweet, appropriately bitter for an IPA, a bit piney, not much barrel. You'll probably like it.
     
  28. 57md

    57md Poo-Bah (2,355) Aug 22, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    Doom? It's none of those things. Some sweetness with the bourbon but it is well in check. The alcohol is hardly noticeable - which can be awful dangerous.

    I'd put Doom in the same sub category as DFH Burton Baton and Squall ( if you've ever had either). But I rated Doom slightly higher.
     
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  29. HorseheadsHophead

    HorseheadsHophead Meyvn (1,286) Sep 15, 2014 New York

    Unfortunately, no, haven't had, either. I was expecting maybe a 120 Minute sort of vibe, but honestly I have no idea what to expect.
     
  30. xxbassplayerxx

    xxbassplayerxx Initiate (173) Mar 16, 2016 Kentucky
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    I've heard a few people say this but I have also heard people in the other camp, myself included, say that the barrel is actually very noticeable. I could absolutely taste (and smell) the heat from the bourbon. In fact, I thought that beyond the big floral hop bouquet on the nose, it was the most noticeable part of the beer.
     
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  31. bbtkd

    bbtkd Poo-Bah (1,920) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    I saw similar observations - both ways - on Koz, Frootwood, and even KBS. Barrel taste might vary from batch to batch depending on how much bourbon was left in each individual barrel - but more likely it is the varying taste sensitivities of individuals. It certainly can depend on temperature also - warming brings out barrel taste.
     
  32. MNAle

    MNAle Champion (899) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota

    I got plenty of whiskey in the aroma and flavors of Doom.
     
  33. StoutElk_92

    StoutElk_92 Poo-Bah (1,790) Oct 30, 2015 Massachusetts
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    When I tried Doom I thought it was malty and slightly oaky bourbony with a little floral piney bitterness. I would like some more citrusy or tropical fruit flavors, though it was still good. I'll have to try again soon.
     
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  34. MNAle

    MNAle Champion (899) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota

    I have a question... At the time malt liquor was big, the controversy was it was a higher ABV beer being marketed to communities that already had an alcohol problem (at least, that is what I remember). IOW, it seemed to be merely a higher ABV beer.

    Given that by today's craft beer standards, the ABV of Colt 45 et al is not all that high, what is unique about a "malt liquor"? Is it just an "Imperial" AAL?
     
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  35. user8991037426712693

    user8991037426712693 Initiate (146) May 19, 2017 Minnesota
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    I think I am going to sit this one out. Didn't care for Frootwood and I was in the Doom camp of needs more cowbell, I mean, needs more barrel. And considering that people are making it seem like CBS is coming, I will hold my breath for that.
     
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  36. bbtkd

    bbtkd Poo-Bah (1,920) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    Apparently distributors have been told CBS is coming. Hopefully quantity is decent.
     
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  37. Cibsie

    Cibsie Aspirant (229) Jan 10, 2015 Minnesota
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    Pretty sure the only shot at getting any will be waiting 12 hours outside the very few liquor stores that don't save it all for employees. Founders is in damn near every state, which will likely make this the most sought after wide release beer of all time.
     
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  38. bbtkd

    bbtkd Poo-Bah (1,920) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    I know 3 store owners/managers that will hold at least one bottle for me, if they get any.
     
  39. Donco

    Donco Devotee (494) Aug 12, 2013 Pennsylvania
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    I'm not an IPA fan but I thought it was pretty interesting stuff. A bit of barrel and maltiness to balance out the hops.
     
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  40. Donco

    Donco Devotee (494) Aug 12, 2013 Pennsylvania
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    Which part of PA? I found it fairly easily in Philly. And where is KBS lying around?!